Re: What's up with so many emails

From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog_at_freebsd.org>
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:09:43 UTC
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On Wednesday,  3 July 2024 at 10:02:47 +0200, Sylvain Saboua wrote:
>> Le 2024-06-25 05:52, Chris Moerz a écrit :
>>>
>>> Have you looked at <https://lists.freebsd.org/>
>>>
>>> There you have all the lists and also the addresses for unsubscribing for each of them.
>
> I of course have, but in my haste back one year ago
> I didn't write down which lists I was subscribing to.

Once a month you should get an email with a list of the mailing lists
to which you're subscribed.

> The only thing I really don't understand is WHY this
> has to be such a painstaking process, which requires
> to find the list,..

The pain seems to be at your end.  From the headers:

  List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD <freebsd-hackers.freebsd.org>
  List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers
  List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-hackers+help@freebsd.org>
  List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
  List-Subscribe: <mailto:freebsd-hackers+subscribe@freebsd.org>
  List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:freebsd-hackers+unsubscribe@freebsd.org>

More to the point, though:

  User-Agent: Webmail Free/1.6.7

Is that the culprit maybe?  Even then, though, the name of the mailing
list should be clear.  After all, you sent your message to it:

  Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org

Does your MUA not display that?

> type one's email to unsubscribe, receive an email asking for a
> response, sending the reply, and last but not least being delivered
> a confirmation email ...

Most of this is common courtesy.  Is it so difficult to use your
webmail MUA?  Maybe you should consider changing.

> Could not the process of (un)subscribing be much simpler ?
> Or has most of the communication already moved to other means ?

Once it was simple.  The advent of webmail seems to be the problem.
I suppose we could consider adding information in the .sig, but so far
there doesn't seem to be much enthusiasm for it.

Greg
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