From nobody Tue Jun 21 19:01:56 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDA786DAF8 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LSG8v024pz4Yxd for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0ED88928B; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 25LJ1wg5067377 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:01:58 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 25LJ1uBd067376; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:01:56 GMT (envelope-from phk) Message-Id: <202206211901.25LJ1uBd067376@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Marek Zarychta cc: Emmanuel Vadot , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reasons for keeping sc(4) and libvgl ? In-reply-to: <3d09c86a-9840-f8bf-4725-8098d958a01d@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <20211126160454.3eb827365a02103169ab9adc@bidouilliste.com> <20220621201924.e9b96876c947140ac1f3b7a4@bidouilliste.com> <3d09c86a-9840-f8bf-4725-8098d958a01d@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <67374.1655838116.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:01:56 +0000 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4LSG8v024pz4Yxd X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of phk@critter.freebsd.dk designates 130.225.244.222 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=phk@critter.freebsd.dk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.97 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[phk]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.984]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[0.997]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.95)[0.955]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N -------- Marek Zarychta writes: > Thanks for heads up. Unfortunately, it will be a great loss. The waste > of power resources might increase since vt(4) still doesn't support VESA > Display Power Management Signaling [...] But the operative word there is "still", isn't it ? There is nothing which prevents vt(4) from doing the right thing is there ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.