From nobody Sun Nov 28 22:07:32 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9A118A9F48 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 22:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "troutmask", Issuer "troutmask" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J2Mzc1qJ3z3kfC; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 22:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 1ASM7Wcv081151 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Nov 2021 14:07:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 1ASM7WOr081150; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 14:07:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 14:07:32 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: Joseph Mingrone Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas Message-ID: <20211128220732.GA81140@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J2Mzc1qJ3z3kfC X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=washington.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.95.76.21) smtp.mailfrom=sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:73, ipnet:128.95.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[washington.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 06:41:01PM -0400, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > Hello FreeBSD community, >=20 > The Foundation is seeking suggestions for new projects to support. What > gaps in the Project are not being addressed by the broader community? >=20 > You can read about past Foundation-supported projects at > https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/projects/ and the Foundation's > four main areas of focus in the 'Technology Roadmap' article at > https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/technology-roadmap/. >=20 > Right now we are gathering ideas. We will send out a call for project > grant proposals soon. If you prefer to send your project ideas directly > to the Foundation, we will be monitoring responses at > techteam@freebsdfoundation.org. >=20 1.) Replace clang with something/anything that is more performant. Going on day 3 of "make buildworld". Still in the lib/clang/libclang directory. % ps -ww -p 77387 PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 77387 2 R 40:34.67 c++ -target x86_64-unknown-freebsd14.0 --sysroot=3D= /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp -B/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/bin= -O2 -pipe -g -O1 -fno-common -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/lib/clang/libc= lang -I/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/lib/clang/libllvm -I/usr/src/contrib/ll= vm-project/clang/lib/Basic -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Driver= -I/usr/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/include -DCLANG_ENABLE_ARCMT -DCLANG= _ENABLE_STATIC_ANALYZER -I/usr/src/lib/clang/include -I/usr/src/contrib/llv= m-project/llvm/include -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -D__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS -D__= STDC_LIMIT_MACROS -DHAVE_VCS_VERSION_INC -DLLVM_DEFAULT_TARGET_TRIPLE=3D"x8= 6_64-unknown-freebsd14.0" -DLLVM_HOST_TRIPLE=3D"x86_64-unknown-freebsd14.0"= -DDEFAULT_SYSROOT=3D"" -DLLVM_TARGET_ENABLE_X86 -DLLVM_NATIVE_ASMPARSER=3D= LLVMInitializeX86AsmParser -DLLVM_NATIVE_ASMPRINTER=3DLLVMInitializeX86AsmP= rinter -DLLVM_NATIVE_DISASSEMBLER=3DLLVMInitializeX86Disassembler -DLLVM_NA= TIVE_TARGET=3DLLVMInitializeX86Target -DLLVM_NATIVE_TARGETINFO=3DLLVMInitia= lizeX86TargetInfo -DLLVM_NATIVE_TARGETMC=3DLLVMInitializeX86TargetMC -ffunc= tion-sections -fdata-sections -Wno-format-zero-length -fstack-protector-str= ong -Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-unused-const-variable -Wno-er= ror=3Dunused-but-set-variable -Wno-tautological-compare -Wno-unused-value -= Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function -Wno-enum-conversion -Wno-unu= sed-local-typedef -Wno-address-of-packed-member -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enu= m -Wno-knr-promoted-parameter -Wno-parentheses -Qunused-arguments -fno-exce= ptions -fno-rtti -std=3Dc++14 -stdlib=3Dlibc++ -Wno-c++11-extensions -c /us= r/src/contrib/llvm-project/clang/lib/Sema/SemaExpr.cpp -o Sema/SemaExpr.o 40 minutes for 1 file with many exceeding 30 minutes seems a tad bit excessive. --=20 Steve