From nobody Wed Nov 24 16:27:38 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCFE189B3BE for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 16:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HzmdS2JTzz3vkd for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 16:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (root@eg.sd.rdtc.ru [62.231.161.221] (may be forged)) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 1AOGRlMh038812 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 16:27:48 GMT (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: Received: from [10.58.0.10] (dadvw [10.58.0.10]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 1AOGRkU1044267 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 23:27:46 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 23:27:38 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,SHORTCIRCUIT autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -0.0 SHORTCIRCUIT No description available. * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on hz.grosbein.net X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HzmdS2JTzz3vkd X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eugen@grosbein.net does not designate 2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eugen@grosbein.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.38 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[eugen]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.923]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grosbein.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.64)[0.635]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/32, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N 24.11.2021 5:41, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > Hello FreeBSD community, > > The Foundation is seeking suggestions for new projects to support. What > gaps in the Project are not being addressed by the broader community? > > You can read about past Foundation-supported projects at > https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/projects/ and the Foundation's > four main areas of focus in the 'Technology Roadmap' article at > https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/technology-roadmap/. > > Right now we are gathering ideas. We will send out a call for project > grant proposals soon. If you prefer to send your project ideas directly > to the Foundation, we will be monitoring responses at > techteam@freebsdfoundation.org. FreeBSD admins had mostly positive experience and support from Quagga routing project in the past to get dynamic routing done (RIP/OSPF/BGP etc.) However, Quagga is not maintained for long time but replacements like FRRouting project lack proper testing for FreeBSD to such an extent that "dead" Quagga still runs better under FreeBSD than FRR in some configurations, f.e. FRR's ospfd is unusable under FreeBSD for interfaces with aliases (carp etc.) because Linux implements aliases differently and FRR developers run only Linux, https://lists.frrouting.org/pipermail/frog/2021-July/001117.html And this is just one of multiple issues with FRR under FreeBSD. It would be nice for someone (TM) to work with FRR team or find some other dynamic routing solution, collect problem reports, perform testing under FreeBSD, maybe develop and push needed changes to upstream (or our ports collection if upstream in not responsive enough), so FreeBSD would get at least same level of routing protocol support that it had with Quagga in the past.