From nobody Wed Nov 24 12:11:56 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF3F18A27EF for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 12:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x92e.google.com (mail-ua1-x92e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Hzfym6Gm0z4nKh; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 12:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x92e.google.com with SMTP id w23so4593417uao.5; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 04:12:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hLPRznAlrUVrclgBKcNy+ALAJCFrBlmOqBrrHd51fVQ=; b=mMqgXOctmwmCrepAlzS71kSrtg194s8qW1kcIANvBlc0hanLtTaD8F5Yr/egKCcUst pp60CbsyZjy7Rj1aDIZIQfBOJS//aBCr724rAexRvrbfC9aFshHwZmCVuzzMKX7bycax adet4NJeWawasjhM2emO3djdEhoqI3fitE0+qKcw8/u/c+O6Rv8s4/IdBeZNApyJjuvH AZWXpnIGD+Iy0BsJO2163R2R0of9JhWWYKqzgV5y/WIwuWRiQ6xW7aRvvsZYZU75IoSL +lOwfmos6vlkuvDUVYG3Szg07v9B7LJeddTVS3JJNem8wWa46fHSMP9aVKC/5WQjDNOS mCBg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hLPRznAlrUVrclgBKcNy+ALAJCFrBlmOqBrrHd51fVQ=; b=azHelXv7z4BG6Plo/O2jRVsDBDBxSZT7QSYJ0tfJb3fGXSGvqJ/ta4i/KoasXJrtO4 KdFiR3dL/93B9sT0KooFRwieiAcvwwvKwHRCvNyjjF2ISC0B1ZA5DvxhWInM7DVcpjll 8qmVdCLEZX9Q7OqEwvrXJjns70zfc933zSgOaihHBAkzzwmXg+ag6oM4aImn/6iyov+K 0gd0JBHW7rElPrfFNsJFy/gShmOvIhWMg/08KISEOHT08Ys3a1MmrNKX2+F0RvAR+yEM Qfwaoq8YxG6BQvpb5+Qqtc4jQijHNUF9cjJviOq8dnxqHFSS0DproCVimiQM+grLQotb lMPw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53129OYpzRUVs3KXh2lq06mquWyOdMReirgEWddAFD+J5lG0BqOw kKDLeArsvuTDrCCOMwRMxQzfWeecHGIyDaLNx5BrEj9oFLM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz7632V2WwABb8TQJ3dTHhT9tLH/ksEGxftjm9OpOOkPHDN6DNoqGwhY1SU7kGqB/o9qOFAhO8bM12Fx5fP41c= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:4adc:: with SMTP id t28mr9872551uae.4.1637755952193; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 04:12:32 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> In-Reply-To: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 15:11:56 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas To: Gleb Popov Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c268b405d187c55c" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Hzfym6Gm0z4nKh X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: Y --000000000000c268b405d187c55c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Great, thanks! On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 3:00 PM Gleb Popov wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 2:11 PM Mehmet Erol Sanliturk < > m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Another important problem is mounting of hard disks connected through a >> USB port or a hot-pluggable port . >> Such connections ( excluding if DOS or NTFS ones are permitted implicitly >> ) require a "root" mount . There is an idea >> "Use sudo or other super user programs for "allowance" of "root" user" . >> In >> my life , I never could understand >> "How is it possible to manage to protect the security of a system by >> using >> such a facility from the "user" space ? " >> >> Is it not possible to allow the user to use a mount command for such >> non-DOS or non-NTFS devices ? >> Why is it necessary to have a fear about such mounting ? >> Please do NOT forget that the computer is available to the user >> PHYSICALLY >> . He ( let's assume he may use violence ) >> can destroy , crash , burn , ... , etc. , the computer PHYSICALLY . Such >> a >> possibility is not considered , but an innocent >> "user" space mount is assumed to be harmful . >> > > This is usually solved by having a mounting daemon that runs as root and > handles user requests for mounting volumes. > Linux has udisks2 for this and we have sysutils/bsdisks > --000000000000c268b405d187c55c--