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[192.94.31.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ay21sm1513877wmb.7.2021.12.01.09.01.30 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 01 Dec 2021 09:01:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <996c704c-9ea4-6463-1339-958aa2d3798c@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 18:01:29 +0100 List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.2 Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <371b758c-1efa-b5df-6437-ce4f06369383@gmail.com> <23c3e735-22b5-7528-e311-d75657c33a69@gmail.com> From: "Floyd, Paul" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J45305btFz4bDL X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=p3r9jkfU; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of paulf2718@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::332 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=paulf2718@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.75)[-0.748]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::332:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2021-11-30 18:55, Stefan Blachmann wrote: > On practically every Linux distro Nouveau is the quasi standard driver > for any type of Nvidia cards, as the proprietary Nvidia drivers are > non-free category. > So I think one can consider Nouveau as very well-tested and reliable > and that porting it to FreeBSD would be worthwhile, profiting many > users who would else either have to buy a new graphics card or migrate > to Linux. When I first installed Fedora, it defaulted to nouveau = black screen. So I switched to non-free nvidia. This breaks on a fairly regular basis due to incompatible kernel changes. DKMS will try to rebuild the kernel module, which fails = black screen. I retried nouveau again a couple of times, still always a black screen. That gave me the impression that nouveau is unmaintained. Sounds like I was wrong there. You kind of get used to it, hitting alt-f2 for a console login and waiting a few days or weeks for non-free nvidia to catch up. By comparison I've had almost no problems with the nvidia drivers on FreeBSD. A+ Paul