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This is relevant to containers on FreeBSD. When using containers in complicated setups, you often want a 'service mesh' which is a way for containers to reliably talk to each other, and across servers. A common approach for users of consul & nomad is to make use of envoy as a sidecar, however envoy is not building on FreeBSD due to BoringSSL dependency and other issues. Why is Envoy broken on FreeBSD? https://gist.github.com/bretton/495707160c046eb29d0d4b447e5a5758 Other approaches are to use nginx reverse proxies as sidecar containers, or other solutions like Istio, which is available in Freshports https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/istio I don't have a specific point other than it would be nice to have Envoy working in ports, or some ideas for solutions for service meshs and containers. -- regards Bretton