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I upgraded my system to FreeBSD14  this afternoon and performed all package upgrades as one should when upgrading between major versions, and uppon going back into X and Enlightenment I have a couple of programs that I had added to my startup  (Firefox and Thunderbird) which started fine however I noticed when trying to start a terminal emulator such as terminology, xterm or eterm, they start but then seem like they are stuck in a crash loop where it is trying to start then disappears then tries to start again over and over until I kill it , I tried a few other applications with similar result smost seem to not be able to place a stable window on the desktop, so I tried to remove my E profile and ran through the Enlightenment set up again but after answering all of the setup questions the screen seems to just go blank and never lands me on a usable desktop, I was hoping someone might have a suggestion to assist with this weird issue, I'm totally fine with sending over any output or logs that might help with diagnosing the problem or if you can point me to a possible log file I may have overlooked maybe I'll get lucky and it's a quick fix? anyway thanks in advance for any help. Jason