From nobody Sat Oct 19 09:58:28 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVxps58Bpz5ZvGf for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 09:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVxps3q1Yz431F for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 09:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729331909; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=jo0TNvlUbBryqr/DbHW8vvidXiOQVX13RFiSvU8v4Ds=; b=SBBtpTNLKIdXWXMYikVHlfqj5lzU4dAT64qqYqpbG3R/LcUUhv2tz6tjGp5hnpFFzIdr6u E561ErNUFy7IHatsiVE3u4NaTXoFZe6PVnzUeBgQ4+JB4mz8GavLMR5x+2jSglaLP0VVGX EF2Sexkh0tlRwqYBbDeny9yVpZ/j+D3Dsac1UEIH6ubk1WQ2m9d820dGA7Cjul94EpIiQL 5a1qpDigG33FXta2itFL91xxpHZf/TCklVbEiSyW6BA3+vNubw+sdfLx7JH/wqnxQ3T+2R IFyqFS/RDdfDve8Mc48nJGog/h8ge2SW6FUKcMEv+k7hXoqxQ0FJvdvSaXGXnQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729331909; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=sRtvp5SVzOjBTWnbT1uaW0+7IdTki3RkGCkmWagec0ZPooRF0/iNpQxTXrnPPTI3l8wblK krRIX/9AZbQuZBo1NEF+36B9YCpK44oVjrFQrxqQG65AFZlZExbwgHyX3Gv+etHuGgcG2B n7PJOt8YN8yZdCAyN8IT5vJB9CGf9iupG28HIm50o6rUhHc8LaG/Mt59EMHEWuhJY6MF0y B86PGdUGXMhTg42LBAhscDXZuoKwcYZaQZIARW44tk7XcOQSLTlfoY57ZKrkYPL0hlLWWX ArmnvzWgMkvTq6jySjsw7ocIQaSN+LrQHg0AYNlG+UFuhg7RIn78eAzbjFINdQ== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVxps3K58z1Bgj for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 09:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49J9wTdF070279 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 09:58:29 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49J9wTVI070278 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 09:58:29 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 09:58:28 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #45 from Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa --- (In reply to Alexander Ziaee from comment #43) > Can we convey the information of 1. What is going on in this chapter and = 2. The > security risk involve; without terrorizing the user? "terrorizing"? Really? Quite an hyperbole I think. > Can we use a combination of both? Clear warning in normal text in opening, Clear warning in normal text is a contradiction in itself. *Many* people do= n't read the text paragraph. Installing the linux base packages is a oneliner. People see the oneliner, execute it and go on with their lives :-) > FreeBSD desktop is for nerds, and they get very alarmed when someone is s= creaming at them. That was very uncalled for. Don't use that adjective and/or assume people h= ave some kind of specific mental trait. > Then if a warning box is truly improving the security environment it can = go at the end like usual boxes? This was discussed in the review, and nobody objected. Only after the commit which is unfortunate and kind of unfair if you ask me. See https://reviews.freebsd.org/D47017#inline-281657 Note that I don't say this commit is perfect (or even good) because it had a backing review. What I say is that this discussion should have happened the= re. Now, the *objective truth*, the *fact* is that c7 packages are *deprecated upstream*. And we know what that means: no bugfixing, no security updates. What I see here: https://github.com/shkhln/linuxulator-steam-utils/issues/1= 43 is people saying the package is going away, which is false. The package does not have an EXPIRATION_DATE. The same way, an unmaintained port does not go away, but it means it is more likely to have unresolved issues. The other thing I see in that link is someone saying "I kind of expected the same people that contributed the newer linux base to do the necessary preparation work".=20 Well, patches are always welcome. The fact that we have a new linux base system has nothing to do with the fa= ct that c7 packages are deprecated upstream. I don't think hiding the implicat= ions of using c7 packages under the rug is a good policy. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.=