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[2403:5800:7500:3601:d55c:4ee6:ca9:7582]) by smtp.gmail.com with UTF8SMTPSA id a20sm1972931pfo.190.2021.06.27.19.10.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Jun 2021 19:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52a583f1-8b45-99ae-2bb1-3646bef96c0f@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 12:10:27 +1000 List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.0a1 Reply-To: koobs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Killing the vbox alias, or making it something different Content-Language: en-US To: Philip Paeps , "linimon@portsmon.org" Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , emulation@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org, Bugmeister , Kyle Evans , Jung-uk Kim , =?UTF-8?Q?Bernhard_Fr=c3=b6hlich?= References: <20210622155842.xaqcwtxnalc3zvbi@aniel.nours.eu> <100696449.241898.1624394437401@privateemail.com> <20210623160619.qfbpv3njxzcq36dq@aniel.nours.eu> <97809881.306058.1624571466444@privateemail.com> From: Kubilay Kocak In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GCrfy2dqJz3kWy X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=m+woafWZ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of koobsfreebsd@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::431 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=koobsfreebsd@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.20 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[koobs@FreeBSD.org]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[9]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[koobs@FreeBSD.org,koobsfreebsd@gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::431:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[koobs@FreeBSD.org,koobsfreebsd@gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::431:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::431:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[emulation] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 25/06/2021 11:26 am, Philip Paeps wrote: > On 2021-06-25 05:51:06 (+0800),  linimon@portsmon.org wrote: >>> On 06/23/2021 11:06 AM Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> I am saying vbox is an alias for emulation@ and nothing else, why not >>> directly >>> assign to emulation@ then? >> >> Hmm.  I think it didn't use to be -- that it was an actual alias for a >> list of individual >> email addresses. >> >> Again, if it can wait for a few days for bugmeister to deply a >> mass-change-with-no-email >> feature, that would be nice. It's coming but its absence does not preclude re-assignment at present. Let us know what needs changing once we figure out whats actually needs changing. (modulo below) > I went digging through the mail-svn logs. > > On 2013-10-16 decke@ requested vbox@ to be forwarded to emulation@ > because he was the only active person left on the alias. This changed a while, but not that long ago. Please update the vbox@ alias to the following recipients: https://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox > It sounds like the alias only continues to exist to catch mail for where > it's referenced.  Changing the references to emulation@ seems like it > was the intended way forward 8 years ago. There's been some ambiguity with respect to vbox / emulation / virtualization addresses and what they've been, and/or *should*, be used for. We need to clarify that again, before any changes are made: vbox: MAINTAINER for virtualbox ports and issues emulation: MAINTAINER for linux emulation and qmu ports [1] and mailing-list for same/similar Note: emulation / vbox are different "teams" sets. the fact that emulation goes to a mailing list and isn't as *explicitly* a "team" or specific set of maintainers (people), is the main source of ambiguity here. virtualization: default assignee, cc for bhyve, xen, aws, vmware etc issues and mailing list for same/similar > I'm sure we can wait a while for bugmeister to deploy their change, > mass-reassign and delete the alias. > > Philip >