From nobody Thu May 23 20:05:17 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VlfKr2CCMz5LCx8 for ; Thu, 23 May 2024 20:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:7400:8808:123::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VlfKq5SBnz3x5Y; Thu, 23 May 2024 20:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Catflap-Envelope-From: X-Catflap-Envelope-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 44NK5Hr1007064; Thu, 23 May 2024 21:05:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 44NK5HCs007063; Thu, 23 May 2024 21:05:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202405232005.44NK5HCs007063@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 21:05:17 +0100 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: grembo@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Localized versions of freebsd.org outdated and linked to by google References: <20240523184138.6712847c.grembo@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20240523184138.6712847c.grembo@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]); Thu, 23 May 2024 21:05:17 +0100 (BST) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:7400::/38, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VlfKq5SBnz3x5Y Michael Gmelin wrote: > What I noticed while getting to localized versions is that some of > these pages are really outdated and/or broken, even those central to > the project. Tangentally related, in the past I got caught out by googling the FreeBSD manpage for something, and the google hit went to the version for Linux. This wasn't even for a port, but a specific Linix distro. On the FreeBSD website, with the FreeBSD logo and the heading "FreeBSD Manual Pages", I missed the small drop down box saying "Redhat", or whatever. I can't remember the command/URL off hand, but here are some examples. The command I looked up gave a result less obvious than these, but you get the point: https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ionice&apropos=0&sektion=1&manpath=Ubuntu+24.04+noble&arch=default&format=html https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ls&apropos=0&sektion=1&manpath=SunOS+4.1.3&arch=default&format=html I don't think that the man.freebsd.org site should hold man pages for other operating systems, or discontinued FreeBSD versions. At the very least, they should not have a FreeBSD banner, and/or be hosted on a different URL and/or marked as non-indexable in search engines. Cheers, Jamie