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I tried to find an explanation but it doesn't exist. I had to take a 'lucky shot' and download the one I thought was the one for my needs. Luckily it was the right one, but if it hadn't been then I would have walked away from FreeBSD because my time is valuable. And this: https://download.freebsd.org/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/14.0/ What the hell is this? There is no clear explanation of what each file is, which can be confusing for some people. I felt it made FreeBSD look lazy, pathetic and out of touch. This is a very bad thing for gaining new users. I propose making the download page give: a clear explanation of each image; the image size; a description of the image, and; a download button. I.E.: Instead of this... FreeBSD-14.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso 1139748864 2023-Nov-10 09:25 Make it like this... CD image Typically used for a minimal installation of FreeBSD. 123 MB [Download now] Sincerely, Kolusion