From nobody Wed Feb 22 19:01:44 2023 X-Original-To: doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PMQVw5Vjjz3tJZF for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 19:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PMQVw41Hcz4Mr6 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 19:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1677092504; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=txoAO/R9Zf1GODkw3GdFMdqBcj/nETqyT8NZKCL1h1Q=; b=hdu7sONT/RuBd5IsAb5vkyYWSaKDPScw5g5wHNihJS4Varv4/otuJykAyZmHd1oGDnMmNM 4GNvNvFHaUEzYFpoOgpALII/sEg9lGOzVrSeKoDjTgPvr6RaV08NZjTGag03XsyUz/mvtz 9Bj31lZoW/gVO9zdi5jokXtfcBYU2VaMQ7gWk6y5jcSARgkEA8oCuUKQiD+Ntefwbi+lKV 1b64u9A8+ZVeU7S70EZ7z2FGEHom9v4m7ZwwtBCyV9s5cZvS9tq5qq8/Q5eeXatQkvrjdO V5fj4LitRU8k0ij+S8QR/mv1cCk8Bu4yDXekPX0kie6VzDFioXW7F6fpJPIFpQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1677092504; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=bDIiEdGyl9uQAQnAMWQ91nkkIAiyVtF0iRCQlxAitTyAI29D9gjmgHrX0+XTrf4pXdE/gg ezSj7BE1jOh5UXvfiivbT7bTeLfZlYjFkWG6yuBcVouRfaYxD7r30OVbQTSYIru+Rvu4Tt kCd1NRNDgdjGSGPkCsv+VpDkvOotNFHjcABGGNaoiMwhsN0dDn2Cr/GkeFRaluZeWM6xJn WrtEV6Pvi3ConD/5FVJSJR4IHhGl8CgsZ5V+Aq+SckEe9hSQYMJNF9NEu87P3tRvlrELit Il/rS8YmQX+DJr3vLTyMAmnL1/PMgSupx2Kr1fNsyhwUibeKsO5LM3G6pABC+g== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PMQVw377xz1BZZ for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 19:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 31MJ1iXx062928 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 19:01:44 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 31MJ1ikg062927 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 19:01:44 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 269762] config(8): DEBUG KERNELS section needs updating/removal Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 19:01:44 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: new X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Manual Pages X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: mhorne@freebsd.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: bugs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_id short_desc product version rep_platform op_sys bug_status bug_severity priority component assigned_to reporter cc Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D269762 Bug ID: 269762 Summary: config(8): DEBUG KERNELS section needs updating/removal Product: Documentation Version: Latest Hardware: Any OS: Any Status: New Severity: Affects Only Me Priority: --- Component: Manual Pages Assignee: bugs@FreeBSD.org Reporter: mhorne@freebsd.org CC: doc@FreeBSD.org The text in this section has rotted quite a bit. - "building a debug kernel is not the default with FreeBSD" -- this is not true even for GENERIC-NODEBUG. We always build with debugging symbols and s= trip them to the separate kernel.debug - Various mentions of disk/memory usage are way too small and should be dropped. - We are too far into the present to be talking about "Traditional BSD kernels" or 4.4BSD-Lite kernels in this page. In my estimation, removal is more appropriate at this point. Even with up-to-date information, I don't know how much value it really provides in t= his era where kernel build/install is wrapped by buildkernel and installkernel. https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dconfig&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D0&= manpath=3DFreeBSD+14.0-CURRENT&arch=3Ddefault&format=3Dhtml --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.=