From nobody Tue Feb 11 16:58:08 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-desktop@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YsnhD2SSRz5nrRm for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2025 16:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfreidel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw1-x112b.google.com (mail-yw1-x112b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::112b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YsnhC6w4sz3CwF for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2025 16:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfreidel@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yw1-x112b.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6f6c90b51c3so47965007b3.2 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2025 08:58:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1739293099; x=1739897899; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=PrymwO+QP6aiITGR60imwsAjWu0TgtNzN2/TmrMbdjM=; b=XMHvjGR9tBP0+ImhS6yAz4arZScG3/UElqKYpm/2Nb8Myk/W6G0Dhj+MHP0St6vgfz upISiB+vBKuk04C11ldBpmCqCZ6p4Q7CCZm80S4UrjUVmy1dKWIEMmUoBkl2k6vskp9x /rqsX1k6lzeJpLcgGXAYqq99QixM9R/67pwJdJfjPG3tnzpyKYPHMoO3MXkXKi/c1nsu uOUD8uVN3G0LOaHTFS3DlYz2ddV4zk76turk0Hr+P/BUY0hoDshWbLTzLwkfOKzvTEtY VtrVmrq8PBYdt6VtQ2yVZwwnjRpjzvJlNq+evsr0B8ZhmOL99eZH80HUTcExlGhViB9h hXGA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1739293099; x=1739897899; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=PrymwO+QP6aiITGR60imwsAjWu0TgtNzN2/TmrMbdjM=; b=NKZbalb7oAow+U5bzTQAPz0bMVMDhej+IjD5P5CQLF8cpuX4oBmZTDlmgoWTFz+IAd bUj9YMPMgpPjlEJSUOauQ1e78o7VKCc3F1qviVdSK3CluQsogkw/cTsyXTgUVTrSN4+j jvrXzyuwoM/n2sbwazKhb+aMGb37kOXRYPl4p0BSAhdTltrtM5TivM6AmblsmI68MG9B HcFyQsxrqsC2On/a/91tFALZJwwSPtLI6Vh9qUJYUQx9SyKWVrl70CgjKOc2vNYLiEdq AIe5nNmB0PXg+owW/XbSoJbDb50H0XEZ3fjGXEUXgqgzD356vELoxd6cYD3qqepXAIk1 J5Yg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxW8/uDGHLB35+nd+EcgdqXAhYAk8K4E3quw6/qTUZRp4hSnqQQ WEjKRuVgc8CXvfiftIzZ0yAYQtdvqu6GEydc0EhxIwT9YuQWO8snSdQVF4Ifhw7FD4y1OKFh2PR r51kR6v6/fmml76WdGWnu6Ex6VFE7cHC6 X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuDYFtOBRAyfR9TEGDPo3xsYmw4bY0GD/N5NdtIDjww5Xw9cfDPtTh6RTskkv6 lsXYcy/WO4O5ERF2rxIRgNwrqqN8lzhTMTDIUON/6d/r2P3DZ5fpL6N5FNnzVs3vtdeHMzcrL5M QSQZPyHyjowtgZQjmOSRE7amG5UXD4lA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEOmM4duJ5lpZgrvNpyNQ1f3/imQlIg1Id/6dTEml/OkeSmgqBkUMZJ+DJGAv+9MotmPO8+ilrr9//rf33fq9w= X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:6389:b0:6ef:69b2:eac with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6fb1f16ab71mr2916917b3.4.1739293098886; Tue, 11 Feb 2025 08:58:18 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Using and improving FreeBSD on the desktop List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-desktop List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-desktop@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ron Freidel Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 08:58:08 -0800 X-Gm-Features: AWEUYZnqfZODcAnnoYM3KqM2WYFwmCn5qjbvb26XzxkvR7gX1r-wKLtO_BDPX-I Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Foundation Laptop Support target hardware and desktop environments To: Ed Maste Cc: freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000051d3cb062de0bb1d" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YsnhC6w4sz3CwF X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] --00000000000051d3cb062de0bb1d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have been intending to use a potential tax refund to purchase a framework laptop. And, am very interested in the project, I am willing to do whatever I can to assist the Foundation When I have one in hand I will let you know Ron On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 6:45 AM Ed Maste wrote: > The FreeBSD Foundation's Laptop Support and Usability Improvements > project is choosing a small list of laptops and of desktop > environments that will be used as targets for our development effort. > This means that contracted developers will be using the laptops and > environments on these lists during their work, and that our testing > will be done against these. > > Inclusion in the target laptop list implies that at least two of these > laptop models are in use by developers working on this project for the > FreeBSD Foundation, and that we have vendor contacts for development > support. > > We are starting the list with the 13" AMD Framework laptop: > > https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/blob/main/supported/laptops.md > > We've chosen this laptop as the initial target for a few reasons. The > Foundation has a good relationship with folks at Framework, and they > have been contributing bug fixes and improvements to improve FreeBSD. > See https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/freebsd-on-framework for > details. > > The Foundation also has a good working relationship with AMD, in case > we need support during development. Additional laptop models will be > added over time, taking into account vendor support and community > feedback. > > For the desktop environment we'll start with KDE, as it is popular and > has an active development team. > > https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/blob/main/supported/desktop-environment.md > . > > We're targeting Wayland as it's important for long-term viability, > although in the short term KDE on X11 is the usable approach. > > Please let me know if you have any feedback on these two topics. > > --00000000000051d3cb062de0bb1d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have been intending to use a potential tax refund to purch= ase a framework laptop.

And, am very interested in the project, I am willing to do w= hatever I can to assist the Foundation

When I have one in hand I will let you know

Ron


On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 6:45 AM Ed Maste <emaste@freebsdfoundation.org> wrote:=
The FreeBSD Foundation's Lapto= p Support and Usability Improvements
project is choosing a small list of laptops and of desktop
environments that will be used as targets for our development effort.
This means that contracted developers will be using the laptops and
environments on these lists during their work, and that our testing
will be done against these.

Inclusion in the target laptop list implies that at least two of these
laptop models are in use by developers working on this project for the
FreeBSD Foundation, and that we have vendor contacts for development
support.

We are starting the list with the 13" AMD Framework laptop:
https://gi= thub.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/blob/main/supported/laptops.md
We've chosen this laptop as the initial target for a few reasons. The Foundation has a good relationship with folks at Framework, and they
have been contributing bug fixes and improvements to improve FreeBSD.
See https://github.com/Framework= Computer/freebsd-on-framework for
details.

The Foundation also has a good working relationship with AMD, in case
we need support during development. Additional laptop models will be
added over time, taking into account vendor support and community
feedback.

For the desktop environment we'll start with KDE, as it is popular and<= br> has an active development team.
https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/blob/main/supported/desk= top-environment.md.

We're targeting Wayland as it's important for long-term viability,<= br> although in the short term KDE on X11 is the usable approach.

Please let me know if you have any feedback on these two topics.

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