Re: poudriere and the user ... is it mostly a lost idea?

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 21:33:55 +0100
Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de> wrote:

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> > Am 15.01.2025 um 20:30 schrieb John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net>:
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> > If you want to get a desktop up and running quickly then you can use the pre-built packages (which are signed and verified by default, clouds and unicorns notwithstanding).
> > 
> > If you choose to build all of your software locally that is 100% a supported option but it does put more responsibility on you, the user. When you get a build failure you are welcome to report it to the maintainer (listed in every single port file) and/or the appropriate mailing list (which -current is not, btw). Include the commands you are running and other configuration details as well as the exact error output.
> > 
> > Note, however, that the automated package build system already emails port maintainers on build failures and, choosing xfce as an example, I don’t see any such reports in the mailing list archives (https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-xfce/). You can even view the results of the project’s package build system (which also uses poudriere) by following the instructions here: https://people.freebsd.org/~grahamperrin/pkg-status/
> > 
> > On a recent quarterly build I don’t see any failed or skipped ports related to the desktop environments you mentioned. (https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/beefy20/build.html?mastername=141amd64-quarterly&build=7b2027223baa)
> > 
> > I’d advise you to do more troubleshooting on your local system and provide some better details if you decide to ask for help in an appropriate forum, such as the freebsd-questions mailing list or the online forums at https://forums.freebsd.org/ or the mailing list(s) listed as maintainers for the ports you are having problems building.
> > 
> > Good luck,
> > 
> > JN
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> 
> Recently, chromium got pulled in on my poudriere build as a dependency of some icinga sub-package.
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> That pulled in llvm19, which took I think 18 or 22 hours on the meager HP Gen 8 that poudriere is running on.
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> Then, after 24h, the build of chromium was erroring out.
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> I think you need to have reasonably recent and powerful hardware to do a build of a „full“ desktop.
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> My normal build is 20 hours for 2200 or so packages. Most time is spent on compiling llvm compilers….

And succeed/failure of builds strongly depends on which options are
selected. If you've changed something, consider restoring them to
default as much as possible.

More, you'd better look for PRs on Bugzilla for ports failing for you.
If you're lucky enough, someone already filed PR and patch and/or
preferred options are already proposed (but not yet landed).

And in some (limited, though) cases, bare-metal builds (with
ports-mgmt/pkg_replace etc.) succeeds but fails on poudriere jails,
usually caused by somewhat dependency issue.

FYI: x11/mate and x11-wm/xfce4 succeed both poudriere (stable/14) and
pkg_replace (main) for me. Some options are changed (or forgotton to
chase default option changes as of overlooking), though.
The ports tree is on main (aka latest) branch.

The hardware probe is as below (old probe, though, so at stable/13 ATM).

  http://bsd-hardware.info/?probe=676f16ac86

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Tomoaki AOKI    <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>