From nobody Wed Jan 15 16:14:11 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YYB0J6P2bz5kKYX for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:14:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 6yearold@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-f175.google.com (mail-yb1-f175.google.com [209.85.219.175]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YYB0J31S3z3sWK for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:14:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 6yearold@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yb1-f175.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e53c9035003so11394841276.2 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2025 08:14:40 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1736957679; x=1737562479; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=oJtB0d2vfdNLTAg3twdx/6Cfyv6jYikINykZYxCXIDg=; b=bUJZeHFuM9/aUk7vZtVXfdZm6/cwETc08JFx2RH6cj78EfIKGFmuQGgZmXpyI1q87Y BbMDQMlFzoMlYAgbO5zHHJC9vrFqCpDiD6OG8VXVeUs+PM96BPqjJoRcc8+0Ezh42iPx rFqPeNfGr1WEO+FXhc+u/MIrY5XuRrWTFNWPtKj+aeufHyFq+EcfyXKEjaKudR1crVbQ iHQ2+w/KKitTm4WiwycRxXMuaXKgZWoJOpAzSOX7fIZ8JfRFl/JojEDf68cYDW5fyy0k E2irMsQp/3zMhNKrRxHk+9T4bIHKiE6d0lDnYj/JnSUAM5F6tr8BiAHw2uPj/3cebuUO ftBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzhtuRXxgECAcpsFOToWw4FKC/eeGCQDG5QZTrZoK4NeHm4axOS 0ZQuVSVoyzHFOQpJb5V41Kjft+1diFsqftFgYVNSyQE2P84EBFv3ZHQP9DCo6cs= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuk2PHr9tbSi8+WfLzm3V6zwmNC9U9FModAzPaMjll0HXg4f79erMCVkN+kFCA N1BS4HIWuq1KwK5JQCMYsF/ILnz/BUUwpA0egRnwKhoP/ZFTz2ZiuxEwPBSW+U+xETuh7GkSDDM vPW6goGLanpQJggEF0MFvGTc1wA5YWUnfmGQcEosKOOQAheAGhoeS+GOAybtBoZ62xQ2vt0+jrq PKt4v6+SXsksLLDS581PBZ+xPcmQdC2/yJjZJZf4ZzXzxcpYMpbYtmAbpsb4F2mjmTmkxPyb8Ce j1Pnd9fA3eBzzrHBeUr/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFcLOAt2ifwHu36HPT9R7qMoVIJ1OIhxIAjk0zIxMEHHk+S+TBPylifp/gstBdDjT2oXhcYSw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:4681:b0:6ef:4b3f:3bc3 with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6f531220b53mr281255007b3.16.1736957679456; Wed, 15 Jan 2025 08:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yb1-f173.google.com (mail-yb1-f173.google.com. [209.85.219.173]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 00721157ae682-6f546e31d9bsm25458417b3.100.2025.01.15.08.14.39 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Jan 2025 08:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yb1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e3a1cfeb711so10315297276.0 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2025 08:14:39 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:2e0e:b0:e56:c350:5977 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e56c350607emr15241295276.49.1736957679086; Wed, 15 Jan 2025 08:14:39 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Gleb Popov Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 19:14:11 +0300 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AbW1kvatHmcuDw9lwf70gdzzp2JAicbTvNDpQc3MX0YikGg818VlkqWx3spge7g Message-ID: Subject: Re: poudriere and the user ... is it mostly a lost idea? To: Dennis Clarke Cc: Current FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YYB0J31S3z3sWK X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 6:17=E2=80=AFPM Dennis Clarke wrote: > > The whole desktop user experience is broken and has been for a long > time. I have the logs. I see the fails. Over and over. It is the usual boring process. If something's not working for you - create a Bugzilla issue, share your logs. You said you have the logs, but didn't share them even in this mail. How're we supposed to help you?