poudriere and the user ... is it mostly a lost idea?

All :


     Over the past month or so I see endless fails in builds for the big
  three user facing window manager things. This means that a simple user
  type person can not get a desktop. Really? Yes really. For at least a
  month or more you can not build KDE5 nor LXDE nor XFCE desktop. With
  FreeBSD there is a trivial idea that it exists in source form and one
  can compile *anything* needed. Am I wrong here?

      So correct me, with a taser to the left, gently, if I am wrong.

  Sure, a user can just use whatever packages are being provided by some
magic server somewhere in a fluffy cloud with coloured unicorns that
dance on the rainbows.


         Failed:  ??

         Poudriere lately always says fail.

         Every day.


  Every time. For the last month or more and I suspect more if I drag the
logs out. I do not want to do that. I just am curious and perhaps misled
with a silly notion that FreeBSD can be used by, you know, a user. This
is not ubuntu and I am so thankful for that. This is not IBM or Red Fat.

  Why do I always see things like this :

     Queued: 31 Built: 21 Failed: 1  Skipped: 9  Ignored: 0  Fetched: 0 
Tobuild: 0   Time: 00:09:43

  Every day. Over and over. For 14.2 and 13.4 and even 15.0 ?  Every day.

[142amd64-latest] [2025-01-15_15h06m30s] [parallel_build] Queued: 315 
Built: 20  Failed: 0   Skipped: 0   Ignored: 0   Fetched: 0   Tobuild: 
295  Time: 00:03:39

  It will fail. For 2025Q1 or 2024Q4 or whatever is "latest".  Fail.

  So I am happy to kick this hornets nest. Let the flames begin. Fine.

  The whole desktop user experience is broken and has been for a long
  time. I have the logs. I see the fails. Over and over.

  For a long time now.

  So then, do I labour under the false assumption that FreeBSD can be,
  you know, used? By a ... you know ... a human type?  Am I lost here ?

  If the power to serve is just a backend server. Then fine. State that
  up front and lets drop the whole user stuff into a deep oubliette.



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Dennis Clarke
RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC
UNIX and Linux spoken