From nobody Thu Nov 07 11:56:05 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XkgWs46z1z5clsw for ; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 11:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=3Qya=SC=klop.ws=ronald-lists@realworks.nl) Received: from smtp-relay-int.realworks.nl (smtp-relay-int.realworks.nl [194.109.157.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XkgWr0rr8z4ZYS for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2024 11:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=3Qya=SC=klop.ws=ronald-lists@realworks.nl) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=klop.ws header.s=rw2 header.b=kj5gfJql; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of "SRS0=3Qya=SC=klop.ws=ronald-lists@realworks.nl" designates 194.109.157.24 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=3Qya=SC=klop.ws=ronald-lists@realworks.nl"; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=klop.ws Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 12:56:05 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=klop.ws; s=rw2; t=1730980566; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=3qx/n2KK8lMteduRhKoRoS619FWWG5kjoZxXdrR57Ts=; b=kj5gfJqlcTNZwxrvsYIyFY5qkZsEsKrd4/T1fb10bYh99Oq/RYGXUMVVY1+8gGCFFhUVzY 1ngTgw482GbXpGf1U/kY2EKOpdv/w3pRp5OTycd3vqVDQT2hXmKZjK/bM0rs9/2fy7fpHd CzGmmlwSAmKyC1a41IIxE+njO2w85wh/FcunWCoXWbgcDglabXHmzhA3DSn9ebS+rjN61E DZpVFtx8aLX9ritxzbwVijaN3FAcaCc+sqOqMVx+Et5N/IBQoH26TdA9dYagHQlSEpmlJs cTSU8rYLF3HAA1SUivLSlDCFqdHoz4Y/2dkR1VEU06UDanuViUTYA7yoYWAKRA== From: Ronald Klop To: Johan Hendriks Cc: FreeBSD Current Message-ID: <982644351.5078.1730980565800@localhost> In-Reply-To: <97788ab0-db70-4413-8b18-f9d95f1d120f@gmail.com> References: <1568966692.4590.1730895354064@localhost> <97788ab0-db70-4413-8b18-f9d95f1d120f@gmail.com> Subject: Re: BRT copying feature List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5077_1230615848.1730980565765" X-Mailer: Realworks (727.78) Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.19 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[klop.ws,quarantine]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[ronald-lists@klop.ws,SRS0=3Qya=SC=klop.ws=ronald-lists@realworks.nl]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:194.109.157.0/24]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[klop.ws:s=rw2]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3265, ipnet:194.109.0.0/16, country:NL]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[194.109.157.24:from]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ronald-lists@klop.ws,SRS0=3Qya=SC=klop.ws=ronald-lists@realworks.nl]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[klop.ws:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XkgWr0rr8z4ZYS X-Spamd-Bar: --- ------=_Part_5077_1230615848.1730980565765 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Van: Johan Hendriks Datum: donderdag, 7 november 2024 11:43 Aan: Ronald Klop CC: FreeBSD Current Onderwerp: Re: BRT copying feature >=20 > =20 >=20 > On 06/11/2024 13:15, Ronald Klop wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> When you create a new pool you can use something like this: >> zpool create -o feature@block_cloning=3Ddisabled ... >>=20 >> I tried setting this on an existing pool. That gave me an error. >> # zpool set feature@block_cloning=3Ddisabled zdata4 >> cannot set property for 'zdata4': property 'feature@block_cloning' can o= nly be set to 'disabled' at creation time >>=20 >> So to install a new 14.2 system you need to do some manual work to creat= e the root pool with the options you prefer. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Ronald. >>=20 >> =20 >> Van: Johan Hendriks >> Datum: woensdag, 6 november 2024 09:37 >> Aan: FreeBSD Current >> Onderwerp: BRT copying feature >>>=20 >>> I installed the latest 14.2 Beta and i noticed that on the root pool th= e BRT copying feature is enabled on the pool. >>> I know i need to set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=3D1 to really make us of it= . But i do not want this on my root pool but i do want to use it on my stor= age pool. >>> I can not disable this feature on the root pool as it is a feature that= can only be set at creation time. >>>=20 >>> Is there a way to use this feature only on selected pools? >>>=20 >>> regards, >>> Johan Hendriks >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 > I think that it would be nice if the installer has the option to set a fe= ature like this to off. Is it easy to break out of the installer, create th= e pool before hand and use that pool? >=20 > Regards, > Johan. Hi Johan, The installer gives me the option to partition manually (which does not giv= e me the option you are looking for) or open a shell which gives you all th= e power you need. =20 =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=A4Partitioning=E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=90 =E2=94=82 How would you like to partition your disk? =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=90 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82Auto (ZFS) Guided Root-on-ZFS =E2=94=82 = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82Auto (UFS) Guided UFS Disk Setup =E2=94=82 = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82Manual Manual Disk Setup (experts) =E2=94=82 = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82Shell Open a shell and partition by hand=E2=94=82 = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=98 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=A4 =E2=94=82 [ OK ] [Cancel] =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=98 I can't say if you will find it easy or not. 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Van: Johan Hendriks <joh.hendriks@gmail.com>
Datum: donderdag, 7 november 2024 11:43
Aan: Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws>
CC: FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Onderwerp: Re: BRT copying feature

 

On 06/11/2024 13:15, Ronald Klop wrote:
Hi,

When you create a new pool you can use something like this:
zpool create -o feature@block_cloning=3Ddisabled ...

I tried setting this on an existing pool. That gave me an error.
# zpool set feature@block_cloning=3Ddisabled zdata4
cannot set property for 'zdata4': property 'feature@block_cloning' can only= be set to 'disabled' at creation time

So to install a new 14.2 system you need to do some manual work to create t= he root pool with the options you prefer.

Regards,
Ronald.

 

Van: Johan Hendriks <joh.hendriks@gmail.com> Datum: woensdag, 6 november 2024 09:37
Aan: FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org&g= t;
Onderwerp: BRT copying feature

I installed the latest 14.2 Beta = and i noticed that on the root pool the BRT copying feature is enabled on t= he pool.
I know i need to set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=3D1 to really make us of it. Bu= t i do not want this on my root pool but i do want to use it on my storage = pool.
I can not disable this feature on the root pool as it is a feature that can= only be set at creation time.

Is there a way to use this feature only on selected pools?

regards,
Johan Hendriks

 
I think that it would be nice if the installer has the option to set a feat= ure like this to off. Is it easy to break out of the installer, create the = pool before hand and use that pool?

Regards,
Johan.


Hi Johan,

The installer gives me the option to partition manually (which does not giv= e me the option you are looking for) or open a shell which gives you all th= e power you need.
  
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I can't say if you will find it easy or not.
Good luck!

Regards,
Ronald.
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