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Grimes" Cc: Lowell Gilbert , Poul-Henning Kamp , Michael Gmelin , Ronald Klop , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 14.1-R rc.conf/ifconfig netmask issue was really hard to figure out Message-ID: References: <44le38z9xl.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <202406141342.45EDg9Al049367@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="svpsecqemsp5mqxz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202406141342.45EDg9Al049367@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> --svpsecqemsp5mqxz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 06:42:09AM GMT, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes: > >=20 > > > Defaulting to a /8 netmask for 192.168.x.y does not make *any* sense = ever. > >=20 > > Well, not in the last 30 years or so, anyway. >=20 > No, never ever did /8 make since on 192.*.*.*, that has always been > class C address space. I think what Poul-Henning meant is that 31 years ago, in 1993, classless inter-domain routing (CIDR) was introduced by the IETF, and it rendered "class"es of ip addresses obsoletes. 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