From nobody Sun Jan 14 16:40:23 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TCgxP6s4gz56cJ2 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 16:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olce@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TCgxP4lQFz4PN1; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 16:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olce@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1705250425; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=emuOwi1LxLDdX/lwGGBK6PqtrHix39yHhbnwIc7Eez4=; b=e6MHnYAfy026aIaVahGorvuQPDqggzzLE7pxnI5SjqxglGR0cvLLdEsjecmBtjA6DSSS61 Bw78dDl6jR16CyrRme/J8KJRR/rY9I7kjylUe6cqNAUtWjFAwxpdsoqlShc4YgXePMuzTF 6NhdaUZLlWBGRg8hpikfZIhQfGxTvMuWchljRxqDRO5PZYUVbegmFIok1jMummufGEA9i4 eAlE5mpQ0YD0FsUfCim7/4HQDxuqSb+NBBBDbX6pSM3blSxKNvZtZZ7iSLHhpdVwJCECN5 BCynG3avg2M2/DErqPZtq1UTdwxWBC0iy2VMpuXGcQEtGQEgHcKpppAM7I1hlQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1705250425; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=emuOwi1LxLDdX/lwGGBK6PqtrHix39yHhbnwIc7Eez4=; b=kIHtzQkUfupK8LeKHFin0nj7wMTG+Mu4gi5DImkzkyYYUgTHy+ayqXJ+9Z7ayaWUuK5zw6 dK0c8lHvWb7NAoUSFuSBdXWgzCMElJwShIqn4eW5P8NOG8J3ocSs76I2MjVZpNmUtSYHca i+oJP4GgRC74rsekA1OI3rNP8nhI6sS/06rlP3w8fLRRjGQferiUMnn6poT2woFmNQU6Mq hvsBLEYk35lZgPPNIL4ijcqrszr8AOsaEWeVbtg3T+6hL0+kV9mXXKzkNfIhM5KGvUF5NX dMCM75Fcgc8GaMj2DpGIHVGF9Q+gbKp5Tsf+r9TYPUsvsg+UmlwcyuPfOaAhaw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1705250425; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=evczKc/J+qWMcX6p0gwvAsXzFy/WAZKcezIX+WS1cARge/CZDdbDoh9pFpDKu1HwOKMGft VwCxq89XqkHnmNixzN7a+tIWT4aCv1FkxO8TSdfcWE2k9QmklFQiQqoIT69KuTIe51qP40 SiR46q5xh0flKY95qJ6Di5ZSrN76797Q89xnHRF5LO1PRH5goey9y4DbmyxV7ZgWXoKVJr AtqxB4rDJypEx6qnpPtVJoPwzbnkRxJJMrk1fvxRsqn/RiiZsn5y6QWwahUy/pEFoPd2y5 1zQdkEPRTi9a3ud1HBX+4dkG6io2Ohndj/Kh+iqsX1FEZhCKWFh6V1HPmFryNQ== Received: from ravel.localnet (lfbn-nic-1-525-172.w90-118.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.118.140.172]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: olce/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4TCgxP1bJHz159b; Sun, 14 Jan 2024 16:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olce@freebsd.org) From: Olivier Certner To: Mike Karels Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: noatime on ufs2 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 17:40:23 +0100 Message-ID: <7547882.metmWpjG0I@ravel> In-Reply-To: <5A74E928-2F4A-4BD6-8B77-837B793055C3@karels.net> References: <233b0bd9-3867-479b-a265-21bf5df0f6ff@quip.cz> <5A74E928-2F4A-4BD6-8B77-837B793055C3@karels.net> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1969367.yjaICcKom0"; micalg="pgp-sha384"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --nextPart1969367.yjaICcKom0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Olivier Certner To: Mike Karels Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: noatime on ufs2 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 17:40:23 +0100 Message-ID: <7547882.metmWpjG0I@ravel> In-Reply-To: <5A74E928-2F4A-4BD6-8B77-837B793055C3@karels.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi Mike, > I like the idea of an option in bsdinstall, but I don't think it is necessary > to check the storage type. It could simply default to noatime. > > I think we should automatically use noatime on SD card images (where bsdinstall > doesn't get used). One of the perhaps unappreciated point and advantage of having 'noatime' as the default is to avoid the complexity of both special casing based on media type and having to configure the different applications that can mount partitions (depending on your uses, there isn't only '/etc/fstab'). Thanks and regards. -- Olivier Certner --nextPart1969367.yjaICcKom0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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