From nobody Tue Sep 19 23:26:24 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RqyTz71bQz4t8n9 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 23:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:7400:8808:123::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RqyTz4SDGz4LbH; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 23:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Catflap-Envelope-From: X-Catflap-Envelope-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 38JNQOgn003617; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 00:26:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 38JNQORU003616; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 00:26:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202309192326.38JNQORU003616@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 00:26:24 +0100 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: ronald-lists@klop.ws, freebsd@grem.de Cc: pstef@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: changes to ps -d? References: <925097787.3785.1695119378729@localhost> <634385E4-6E9A-410F-9BDC-2E2B97A8C46F@grem.de> <375102065.5853.1695129769542@localhost> In-Reply-To: <375102065.5853.1695129769542@localhost> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]); Wed, 20 Sep 2023 00:26:24 +0100 (BST) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:7400::/38, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RqyTz4SDGz4LbH > Curious about the meaning of "would be the best in that -d would go back to what it was" in https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2023-August/004277.html. > > Currently in "ps -d -p " -d is not back at what it was. Yes, back to what it was pre-releng/12.2. The functionality you like was new at that point. It broke some of my things which had been running for years, and relied on the original behaviour. As it was possible to affect others in similar ways, it was decided to revert it as a POLA violation. If you make "-D down" the default (as you suggested in a previous message), then we would be back to having the problem. I said I personally didn't mind if the original functionality was added back in a different way, but Piotr graciously decided it would be best to revert to the original behavior, and instead enable his new enhancements with a new option. Cheers, Jamie