From nobody Wed Oct 25 01:03:48 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SFW0G1WKGz4xm9W for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 01:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SFW0F1M7pz3XLv; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 01:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net has no SPF policy when checking 69.59.192.140) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net; dmarc=none Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id 39P13mWH040504; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id 39P13maS040503; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <202310250103.39P13maS040503@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 14.0-BETA5 Now Available In-Reply-To: To: Ed Maste Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:03:48 -0700 (PDT) CC: "Rodney W. Grimes" , =?UTF-8?Q?Gy=C3=B6rgy_P=C3=A1sztor?= , freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.60 / 15.00]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:69.59.192.0/19, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gndrsh.dnsmgr.net,gmail.com,freebsd.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[fbsd]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dnsmgr.net]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SFW0F1M7pz3XLv > On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 at 11:06, Rodney W. Grimes > wrote: > > > > This is a regression of forms... I have been using ventoy to boot FreeBSD > > since 12 or so and this is the first I have heard of a failure to boot > > FreeBSD with Ventoy, so my ask is, what changed in FreeBSD that broke > > it booting in Ventoy? > > At a minimum FreeBSD 14 has a different KBI and the 13.x kernel > modules provided by older Ventoy won't work on 14.0. How does the KBI even entery into the picture? What "modules" are being provied by Ventoy, I do not know of any FreeBSD modules being provided by Ventoy, it is an EFI shim that loads the FreeBSD loader, and the loader does all the work. Again, perhaps I do not see this as I am only using ventoy in EFI mode. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org