From nobody Thu Oct 12 06:38:07 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S5g35038qz4xLDd for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 06:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from mailgate.Leidinger.net (mailgate.leidinger.net [IPv6:2a00:1828:2000:313::1:5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailgate.leidinger.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4S5g3447xsz4vjp; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 06:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1697092737; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=A1WymM1L5+bT0x23nlbcFq3WRyITEJh7z1yf706tKhU=; b=RXqrubvEauqDrM8qaQRw0vvJRExlqRjEniGK1IhSREwr02SpznwxD+wRmZIQoFxL4whl7N Z1fOeMhECux0+VdkCmXC6cV9Zs7AAKI/HvcEMPp15D4IYgYJTcVRUZWZ4V1CPz/8szzB9R q6IDffpp1qKBJcXEe56CkxkmUfY5J33aYMb712Zq23pbTlwrPz7jJ4OBi8y07lbehHisbF WyCtwNmVaa8SXKW1hRemqB8MNU4SFiBh17cHmAIlFLbwkzVsC39SLROZUSdbT5oenMWUeG mjWEEzkvXO0PShnqADK9jbYeHEu+N6uvmUOo1BVP3yKzP8y627srIKR0qaYwSg== Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:38:07 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Mark Millard Cc: Kyle Evans , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: git: 989c5f6da990 - main - freebsd-update: create deep BEs by default [really about if -r for bectl create should just go away] In-Reply-To: <6AA52432-32DF-4C2D-B061-F207521F7397@yahoo.com> References: <6AA52432-32DF-4C2D-B061-F207521F7397.ref@yahoo.com> <6AA52432-32DF-4C2D-B061-F207521F7397@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9cd8008661363f6ca97fdd9d25cab8bb@Leidinger.net> X-Sender: Alexander@Leidinger.net Organization: No organization, this is a private message. Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_830f16000e43470e5c8cac3c48dcdea0"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:2a00:1828::/32, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S5g3447xsz4vjp This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --=_830f16000e43470e5c8cac3c48dcdea0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Am 2023-10-12 07:08, schrieb Mark Millard: > I use the likes of: > > BE Active Mountpoint Space Created > build_area_for-main-CA72 - - 1.99G 2023-09-20 10:19 > main-CA72 NR / 4.50G 2023-09-21 10:10 > > NAME CANMOUNT MOUNTPOINT > zopt0 on /zopt0 > . . . > zopt0/ROOT on none > zopt0/ROOT/build_area_for-main-CA72 noauto none > zopt0/ROOT/main-CA72 noauto none > zopt0/poudriere on > /usr/local/poudriere > zopt0/poudriere/data on > /usr/local/poudriere/data > zopt0/poudriere/data/.m on > /usr/local/poudriere/data/.m > zopt0/poudriere/data/cache on > /usr/local/poudriere/data/cache > zopt0/poudriere/data/images on > /usr/local/poudriere/data/images > zopt0/poudriere/data/logs on > /usr/local/poudriere/data/logs > zopt0/poudriere/data/packages on > /usr/local/poudriere/data/packages > zopt0/poudriere/data/wrkdirs on > /usr/local/poudriere/data/wrkdirs > zopt0/poudriere/jails on > /usr/local/poudriere/jails > zopt0/poudriere/ports on > /usr/local/poudriere/ports > zopt0/tmp on /tmp > zopt0/usr off /usr > zopt0/usr/13_0R-src on /usr/13_0R-src > zopt0/usr/alt-main-src on /usr/alt-main-src > zopt0/usr/home on /usr/home > zopt0/usr/local on /usr/local [...] > If such ends up as unsupportable, it will effectively eliminate my > reason for using bectl (and, so, zfs): the sharing is important to > my use. Additionally/complementary to what Kyle said... The -r option is about zop0/ROOT/main-CA72 zop0/ROOT/main-CA72/subDS1 zop0/ROOT/main-CA72/subDS2 A shallow clone is only taking zop0/ROOT/main-CA72 into account, while a -r clone is also cloning subDS1 and subDS2. So as Kyle said, your (and my) use case are not affected by this. 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