From nobody Thu Nov 16 21:22:52 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SWY3J70Mdz516mV; Thu, 16 Nov 2023 21:25:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:7400:8808:123::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SWY3H6rJ7z4N5h; Thu, 16 Nov 2023 21:25:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jamie@catflap.org designates 2001:19f0:7400:8808:123::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jamie@catflap.org; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=catflap.org X-Catflap-Envelope-From: X-Catflap-Envelope-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 3AGLMrso086012; Thu, 16 Nov 2023 21:22:53 GMT (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 3AGLMqsN086011; Thu, 16 Nov 2023 21:22:52 GMT (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202311162122.3AGLMqsN086011@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 21:22:52 +0000 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: gjb@FreeBSD.org, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca Cc: re@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule References: <20231114203654.GB52320@FreeBSD.org> <20231115022701.GM1307@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20231115022701.GM1307@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]); Thu, 16 Nov 2023 21:22:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.69 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.986]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[catflap.org,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:dyslexicfish.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org,freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:7400::/38, country:US]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[jamie]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SWY3H6rJ7z4N5h X-Spamd-Bar: --- > Ok. I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are never > official until there is a PGP-signed email sent. The email is intended > for the general public of consumers of official releases, not "yeah, > but"s. Foe a recent new build, I just went to the ftp site to grab the latest rc, only to see 14.0-release there, so I grabbed and installed that, many hours before your original mail went out. No biggy, I generally track stable, but does this mean we can't rely on the download sites without checking out the lists first? It's not like I was plaing sneaky by doing "guess the URL" or anything like that. Jamie