From nobody Wed Nov 01 22:02:47 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SLM4c2DBJz50C1y for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2023 22:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SLM4c0BDSz4KBM; Wed, 1 Nov 2023 22:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2023 23:02:47 +0100 Author: Steffen Nurpmeso From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: Jamie Landeg-Jones Cc: dickey@his.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, bapt@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 14+ -- tcsh incompatible with terminfo Message-ID: <20231101220247.HGrrB%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <202311010349.3A13nX1M094463@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> References: <202310312245.39VMjNJB080965@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <202310312259.39VMxm6W081150@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <202311010349.3A13nX1M094463@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Mail-Followup-To: Jamie Landeg-Jones , dickey@his.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, bapt@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.24-545-gbd87680ac8 OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15987, ipnet:217.144.128.0/20, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SLM4c0BDSz4KBM List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote in <202311010349.3A13nX1M094463@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net>: |Thomas Dickey wrote: ... |To the FreeBSD release folk, I think it's great that we're moving off \ |termcap, Why? (That is to say: why -- if it is a *real* termcap? If it is only a translation layer to terminfo, i am with you. But otherwise not, i think a real termcap is much, much smaller, while offering anything a (simple) console program needs.) That is not to talk small the efforts of Mr. Dickey. But for example the mailer i maintain *can* directly use BSD termcap if so desired, and it works just nice. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)