From nobody Wed May 31 16:08:11 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QWZ1j0xHHz4XBpm for ; Wed, 31 May 2023 16:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from garyj@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "Telekom Security ServerID OV Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QWZ1h4P6Nz4VLm for ; Wed, 31 May 2023 16:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from garyj@gmx.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1685549294; i=garyj@gmx.de; bh=OFandHvBSoRSQMHDfQMHROKuidNqNYPV0+GpGgdQPpg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Reply-To; b=OB2wuv63+YZZUYfeOpUoL8tzDQfR7YTihctXIhIxq0s+2M7FBV1EEzNyVsvV5aZDo mAZ21VbKMLONEk7zpYsdYvS1s5oO3+VcvRRLkhy8tT+WrM7nci4rQ0xXyC/Z9hxyxO BO6wTVc0uz47Cd+TkndSS9pIXGqgq3LYmSJfpHOcZduOOGd07ytCpnMpKZEkacFsKT B2KvsqoW3y7h1VNFWeGlwHuPU3p0wE4ek31d9cyaqDtmJA9YxeRl9cqTTa79DImuAr LfDy/VbQJtBFmffEsXz+NUbyl2VKGhIqbfACYf2rR+29vV5FwHPhDQeGaWLur8WD6M tULsXTSM216Ug== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from ernst.home ([91.59.239.47]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mwwdl-1qJ1qH3EmR-00yNrI; Wed, 31 May 2023 18:08:14 +0200 Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 16:08:11 +0000 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Mario Marietto Cc: Stephan Lichtenauer , Pete Wright , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: PinePhone Pro Boots On CURRENT Message-ID: <20230531180811.1403f4a9@ernst.home> In-Reply-To: References: <86leh6ggfx.fsf@pcf00001.honeyguide.net> <20230530202020.060be2bf@ernst.home> <20230531113020.51b6b3cf@ernst.home> <20230531153555.472ac351@ernst.home> Reply-To: garyj@gmx.de X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.19.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:WSUIrWea2WKs17UEEhZC69dSn0CAsAJ+rnmgUFqkocvn0vILAvD VS7ROqRb0peYKSMkh9MqfXkrAX/4JM8gfOt3VZAu08rfB/ZjOm1eQfhFYoqa6FH9u84kW4f OTgh4c5Ptwx+fOpOh5l5YRSEUWIm2xl2OrHR4TgjhfSe3K7pMmCWZtlcZl3mVERTFhJw7UR Br3rU94MY4QKV+HV6+P4A== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:FT53Xguy+4c=;3R7lbWLNhhGoR/6fB1WcCiYOxi/ wlA4DQWQTFM/iJljEmQkebD7EnGg1Q3nCbB0ez9r5xAiHcoL0A5UN8uymzMLQVtUBCVCvJOAf yu+py71odbr1WLjYf/f8ZRfqCwhHfUe7yv7dtHQJg1PU5kfw84CoIQ+ubNUEl3hfCMgYWUngX mLXEk9dxSdl8g/BTpxt7kt3g3LEmdpD24KmS68hLj6m1+XT9cMzfu8r/n72J2FZBegu75GPfW xF5/m4UxJUKknzVlWNafes//5AVbY5S/9OYNF7JaEpa2BzE2vthOTK9+THp+PrRjmqDoaSss6 odbA1inBpLb8eIZm9zQ2ED5b30tUfMqnRuem6/mCnNDt34NqtDFjnvVicpfpEXMnE7PEePPnE 4LPxu1+9yhiwsjNoZgFQA3UgSqH4zcXWiQ1JtsafAxdnDcqZUXeTGKsy077CmehKLSFG3AA+U x/BSjMd4+eFlfEX3pF5kFAauRbsTm3/gsYXk5d2B/1OI7jVKVJjgiGPTANwAd2aoZSmSGaWLt R3FdZp3h6/lfuy92QHQ2MTbpC1MWKA+AFqjDojTZY0w1WzgyWFx3wvA7TY5G1UgqWde5Ue1iW uPacuCwweNs2IGIlTX2J88CFj5ftPv7kJicowpG4FGM9doOjQWi8dbTF14yJYqpGJmCzGZw84 G9FVxhBSbc4PueSWm/IyeL4YHuuaQb2cM/2CN68uKsaaWQ2F4xJRwypb2tbX3bXPQjlfVmJQh lw8EPlpj6o0HrbSQ0AuR2iTEuZopqibLxTgjPliebtTqdBLtwZgNHPW5IgPSHTqjFfkxUNNg3 6t5MMieBx5mHERp6JTsQo2nfnlERGCgcTHzVK/W2mX252O1g8Mv1zg0sPFmJz9/1M24LQzIRa VOClCvoUvB8FmjylF9OTK0nlGVYFvVtqfG3FdCpeSlFdJ+LvTuOgSRClRG1k2lhVe9aZglUDj O3S51qZ05umLMtBHYgUHAoj3Qeg= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QWZ1h4P6Nz4VLm X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, 31 May 2023 15:48:44 +0200 Mario Marietto wrote: > ---> Android remains the OS for the phone. > > I'm not sure but I see that he talks even about Linux as main os that ca= n > be installed on the phone > No, Linux is installed in a chroot. So it's not replacing Android. See chroot(2) and chroot(8). The developer used Linux Deploy, an app from Google, which creates a chroot on a SD card and copies Linux to it. Since Android only supports FAT32 that means that the Linux distribution has to be smaller than 4GiB (about 4.295 billion bytes). Would be nice if there were an app like that for FreeBSD. > ---> FreeBSD does not have the required proprietary driver blobs which a= re > used by Android and I greatly doubt > that FreeBSD running in a KVM will have access to all (or any) of these > hardware elements. > > This is true. But AFAIK qemu can provide the missing software > components replacing > them with the virtual ones. > I can't imagine how that could work without the proprietary driver blobs. There are lots of drivers in the source tree, but based on the names it's difficult to tell just which hardware is supported. Not clear whether the modem is in the tree or a driver blob is required. =2D- Gary Jennejohn