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Grimes > > > wrote: > > > On Thu, May 11, 2023, 2:16 PM Yuri > wrote: > > > > > Warner Losh wrote: > > > > The branch main has been updated by imp: > > > > > > > > URL: > > > > https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=c16e08e5f324aa119c85e10eaabacbd2abdb40e0 > > > > > > > > commit c16e08e5f324aa119c85e10eaabacbd2abdb40e0 > > > > Author:     Warner Losh > > > > AuthorDate: 2023-05-11 20:04:12 +0000 > > > > Commit:     Warner Losh > > > > CommitDate: 2023-05-11 20:06:03 +0000 > > > > > > > >     stand/efi: Retire i386 support > > > > > > > >     Remove the i386 ifdefs and files. It never worked. > > > > > > > >     Sponsored by:           Netflix > > > >     Reviewed by:            manu, tsoome, kevans > > > >     Differential Revision:  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D40012 > > > > > > > As this question seems to be asked a lot on the forums, does > this mean > > > we will never support the 32bit efi booting 64bit OS? > > > > > > > Yes. It means we've given up on that. Such environments are rare these > > days, as far as I know, so unless someone shows up with something that > > works perfectly with a qemu testing recipe that we can roll it > into out > > test bed. Plus some kind of info on real hardware that does this > that's > > popular enough to justify inclusion. > > I have only ever seen 1 implementation of x86 32bit efi, and it was > such a pile of turds I just scrapped the machine. > > > That was my experience as well, so I biased my action towards just > removing it. If it turns out my experience was somehow atypical and > these are popular and very much robust, I'm open to learning about it. I just noticed that it was asked several times in the last few months trying to use FreeBSD on not-so-modern and rather exotic hardware; I don't think we really need that support, but I simply wasn't aware of efi32 status before this commit, hence I asked :)