From nobody Wed Jul 26 10:11:22 2023 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4R9qRy33nZz4pKlQ for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2023 10:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@aetern.org) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4R9qRx3W6dz3nGr for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2023 10:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@aetern.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=aetern.org header.s=fm3 header.b=FI7GKRNY; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b="k jRTArr"; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yuri@aetern.org designates 66.111.4.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yuri@aetern.org Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A5F5C0064 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2023 06:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 26 Jul 2023 06:11:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aetern.org; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date:date :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t= 1690366284; x=1690452684; bh=xs2WGgy6e+9h/NcFLViGsSLQmiW7mfNFiU/ XxfjkFMY=; b=FI7GKRNYbtZikFyyADqFT7BSJUXdtdFwE1Wv2+Y7iURMlPp82GO XMJ2aM14cAT63XTpM2HpCZ/hYiElXDIQ/EheLyBlQcJE8QJVo++ICIkO7J+Vz2sI 2cyyNeiPfJiv2ukEF8Udw2c+LOSxQPwIDbJg6GpZb6aAYnsDcSaaN9ms+rXVeCyN JJWCL6daosRBdwA5DMicDlkxzhYoadqAdXo+GF+ssG0LPDH7SqaofNQYXDgZIR9H Ur3fzSQ/1J+ddpIvrJCurORNKM+W6OowKuzAGgRzSd7zBEsE+gq3A5cqevqTy9+D oB1cTbPBIu+shbtc6CKgev3l68MD6qFLl+g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t=1690366284; x= 1690452684; bh=xs2WGgy6e+9h/NcFLViGsSLQmiW7mfNFiU/XxfjkFMY=; b=k jRTArrvoqjD0lnUmoKBxR2REz8SLAfO9ZgRQBZnLY6dbxFnKvuKre+Syku98vIaL cCZu1L+ZzbNxuezIflPbnToEJeauEFNfG3CMgqVOqTZj9odE7ZfXMYoE9AbuL+3J 5ekmht+2WY7s75mcf5QJRrtK422elW4tVZyghBYODwZe9dZwxREv385cVrgf264k AtfFrHH7DejqO4fGNDQ8HoMhnyEMcEEIPDfaZIazKwbBRKazrIQQvhZCxYs44j9g jnZ1u3CAl1UygtSURSZyWWRDV5APeHV/rcN3KnACn8mN0X2qW4JKCeD/YGUwDUWi 6RiJK6u/qzGU7JaWgobPg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedviedriedvgddvgecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepkfffgggfuffvfhfhjggtgfesthekre dttddvjeenucfhrhhomhepjghurhhiuceohihurhhisegrvghtvghrnhdrohhrgheqnecu ggftrfgrthhtvghrnhephfdtgfelkeeuheekgfevveduvdffheekkeegkeelgeekiedvud ejvdduheeuheelnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhf rhhomhephihurhhisegrvghtvghrnhdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i0d79475b:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2023 06:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 12:11:22 +0200 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: HST time zone Content-Language: en-US To: current@freebsd.org References: From: Yuri In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4R9qRx3W6dz3nGr X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.39 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:66.111.4.27]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[aetern.org:s=fm3,messagingengine.com:s=fm3]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; local_wl_from(0.00)[yuri@aetern.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[aetern.org:+,messagingengine.com:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19151, ipnet:66.111.4.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=multimap; Matched map: local_wl_from David Cornejo wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 11:01 AM Dimitry Andric > wrote: > > On 25 Jul 2023, at 22:26, David Cornejo > wrote: > > > > One thing that has bothered me for a long time is that the > Pacific/Honolulu timezone is found under the America -- North and > South/United States of America/Hawaii in tzsetup. Politics of > Hawaiian Sovereignty aside, every other system I regularly install > uses Pacific/Honolulu as it is in the official tzdb. tzsetup is (more or less) following the logic of the original tzselect script from tzcode. > > Is there any reason why a patch to change to match the standard > would be refused? What kind of standard and what exactly needs to be patched? > Which version of FreeBSD are you using? On my 14-CURRENT box, Hawaii > is actually found in *two* locations in tzsetup: > > * America -- North and South -> United States of America -> Hawaii > * Pacific Ocean -> United States of America -> Hawaii Using tzsetup compiled with -DVERBOSE shows that both options install Pacific/Honolulu. > > > It just seems that the "standard" is Pacific/Honolulu and we are > different - in the IANA tz db, there is only mention of > Pacific/Honolulu. While I'm not saying they're correct, every Linux dist > I've tried uses it. I have a mixed shop, and every difference is a > potential problem. We are not really different as the timezone file selected is indeed Pacific/Honolulu. What is the exact difference with linux dists? > I doubt that this affects many people, so consistency would not seem a > hardship. > > So that would serve all sides? :) > > As far as I can see, the menu is dynamically generated from > /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone1970.tab, which has: > > US      +211825-1575130 Pacific/Honolulu        Hawaii > > and seems to be up-to-date with regards to the IANA tz files. Right, tzsetup only processes what's there in zone1970.tab.