From nobody Thu Aug 17 03:37:43 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RR9gd0867z4q6f8 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 03:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mail.oetec.com (mail.oetec.com [108.160.241.186]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.oetec.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RR9gc5CR6z3HwQ; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 03:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from [172.16.35.9] (cpe8c6a8d4d360a-cm8c6a8d4d3608.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.253.151.152]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.oetec.com (8.17.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 37H3bhnf049010 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 16 Aug 2023 23:37:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=blastwave.org; s=default; t=1692243465; bh=uE0rn7V+CaKpLc+TersSm5s8mkxMhQ7/S3+bU9EBozk=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=c9h9SmzfmQ30QzHYu7DujgCMNXg4ghammkZkrV8Zob+/BGXFwjr75XPRTcsCdn9I/ vei0Pg1KCclGQvl1yXEEgaSxPGNnBPAiO88iildAtDL2bbskSPYfUUl7neKMt+OmtQ 945CA4wLerxQWegFy0hzQgxcCn4THwJNqSm/ZSQMMBdF6Ir0C/iDqmrA8r43DeydIJ gSJ4xdazntOi9PSCRx79Ci4CQAKZHQVYLDQLQIwXVwVvN3gys7KHWA0vHoCfd0x78S HPSeZxRzwsYU4KrQSVji0+j43jMaKndkIom92k7LAqrM1gawIQVZ8RGIyBGRmzAnWK 2QKMBNEfqx05g== Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 23:37:43 -0400 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.12.0 Subject: Re: Defaulting serial communication to 115200 bps for FreeBSD 14 Content-Language: en-CA To: Alexander Motin , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20230816040257.A397366@slippy.cwsent.com> <20230816161057.f8c6a3b4ebe9c672d920811e@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <22dd3552-480b-05da-76d7-dfbe2cb03110@blastwave.org> <896a3247-1a60-fe7a-674e-92ae511b41aa@FreeBSD.org> From: Dennis Clarke Organization: GENUNIX In-Reply-To: <896a3247-1a60-fe7a-674e-92ae511b41aa@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-oetec-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-oetec-MailScanner-ID: 37H3bhnf049010 X-oetec-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-oetec-MailScanner-From: dclarke@blastwave.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RR9gc5CR6z3HwQ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:812, ipnet:108.160.240.0/20, country:CA] On 8/16/23 22:28, Alexander Motin wrote: > On 16.08.2023 18:14, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> The default serial communications config on most telecom equipment that >> I have seen ( in the last forty years ) defaults to 9600 8n1. If people >> want something faster from FreeBSD then do the trivial : >> >>      set comconsole_speed="115200" >>      set console="comconsole" >> >> Is that not trivial enough? > > Except it is not a telecom equipment 40 years ago.  Even at 115200 that > I routinely use on my development systems I feel serial console output > affects verbose boot time and kernel console debugging output.  I also > have BIOS console redirection enabled on my systems, and I believe the > default there is also 115200, and even that is pretty slow.  I see no > point to stay compatible if it is unusable. > You seem to be missing the point. You need to make a configuration choice. You. Not the world. You. Edit your /boot/loader.conf and put in the lines above. Then be happy. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional PS: a recent CISCO ASA fireware defaults to 9600 8n1. Same as a lot of equipment.