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From: Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:08:26 +0200
Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> writes:
> > Yes. But if bsdinstall and freebsd-update automatically bootstrap
> > etcupdate if not yet done, newbies and casual users wouldn't be bitten.
> 
> https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=e9120a256075543376496fbd75949eed1f13a887
> 
> DES
> -- 
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@FreeBSD.org

Oh, thanks! I've completely missed it when landed.

This can help new installation using release tarballs (official or
locally built) or upgrading with overwriting using said tarballs, but
how does freebsd-update? I'm not enough familiar with how
freebsd-update upgrades base.

-- 
Tomoaki AOKI    <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>