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Tue, 18 Apr 2023 10:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 12:35:57 +0200 From: Michael Gmelin To: Warner Losh Cc: Michael Gmelin , Ceri Davies , Conrad Meyer , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Reducing SIGINFO verbosity Message-ID: <20230418123557.443cd189@bsd64.grem.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20210520180155.3e23500e@bsd64.grem.de> <20210520185917.GL14975@funkthat.com> <20220619140624.21263e46@bsd64.grem.de> X-Face: $wrgCtfdVw_H9WAY?S&9+/F"!41z'L$uo*WzT8miX?kZ~W~Lr5W7v?j0Sde\mwB&/ypo^}> +a'4xMc^^KroE~+v^&^#[B">soBo1y6(TW6#UZiC]o>C6`ej+i Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWJBwe5BQDl LASZU0/LTEWEfHbyj0Txi32+sKrp1Mv944X8/fm1rS+cAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAAL EwEAmpwYAAAAB3RJTUUH3wESCxwC7OBhbgAAACFpVFh0Q29tbWVudAAAAAAAQ3Jl YXRlZCB3aXRoIFRoZSBHSU1QbbCXAAAAAghJREFUOMu11DFvEzEUAGCfEhBVFzuq AKkLd0O6VrIQsLXVSZXoWE5N1K3DobBBA9fQpRWc8OkWouaIjedWKiyREOKs+3PY fvalCNjgLVHeF7/3bMtBzV8C/VsQ8tecEgCcDgrzjekwKZ7TwsJZd/ywEKwwP+ZM 8P3drTsAwWn2mpWuDDuYiK1bFs6De0KUUFw0tWxm+D4AIhuuvZqtyWYeO7jQ4Aea 7jUqI+ixhQoHex4WshEvSXdood7stlv4oSuFOC4tqGcr0NjEqXgV4mMJO38nld4+ xKNxRDon7khyKVqY7YR4d+Cg0OMrkWXZOM7YDkEfKiilCn1qYv4mighZiynuHHOA Wq9QJq+BIES7lMFUtcikMnkDGHUoncA+uHgrP0ctIEqfwLHzeSo+eUA66AqzwN6n 2ZHJhw6Qh/PoyC/QENyEyC/AyNjq74Bs+3UH0xYwzDUC4B97HgLocg1QLYgDDO1v f3UX9Y307Ew4AHh67YAFFsxEpkXwpXY3eIgMhAAE3R19L919nNnuD2wlPcDE3UeT L2ytEICQib9BXgS2fU8PrD82ToYO1OEmMSnYTjSqSv9wdC0tPYC+rQRQD9ESnldF CyqfmiYW+tlALt8gH2xrMdC/youbjzPXEun+/ReXsMCDyve3dZc09fn2Oas8oXGc Jj6/fOeK5UmSMPmf/jL+GD8BEj0k/Fn6IO4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:213.239.217.29/32]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[grem.de:s=20180501]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[grem.de:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grem.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:213.239.192.0/18, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Q10h96Vbjz3KNR X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:55 -0600 Warner Losh wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 6:06 AM Michael Gmelin > wrote: >=20 > > > > > > On Fri, 21 May 2021 08:36:49 -0600 > > Warner Losh wrote: > > =20 > > > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 7:38 AM Ceri Davies > > > wrote: > > > =20 > > > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 03:57:17PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote: =20 > > > > > No, I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s any reason to default it > > > > > differently on stable =20 > > > > vs =20 > > > > > current. I think it=E2=80=99s useful (and I prefer the more verbo= se > > > > > form, which isn=E2=80=99t the default). =20 > > > > > > > > I agree that there's no reason for the default to be different, > > > > but I would say that it is much easier for someone who knows > > > > that there is a default to be changed to change it, than it is > > > > for someone who does not. Therefore, if the information is not > > > > useful to someone who does not know how to get rid of it, then > > > > it should default to not being displayed, IMHO. > > > > =20 > > > > > > I plan on changing the default for non-INVARIANT kernels back to > > > the old behavior. > > > > > > INVARIANT kernels will keep this behavior because it's a debugging > > > kernel and this is one more thing to help debugging problems. > > > =20 > > > > Did this ever happen? I just installed a fresh 13.1-RELEASE > > production system (non-INVARIANT kernel) and it seems like SIGINFO > > still outputs kernel stack information. > > =20 >=20 > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D35576 for those who wish to weigh in. >=20 > Warner >=20 >=20 Hi Warner, I just installed 13.2-RELEASE, seems like this was never MFCd (it is in main, but not in stable/13 or releng/13.2). TBH, I could've checked myself back then (it's so easy to forget to MFC). Cheers Michael p.s. Learned about it by hitting ctrl-t to check if freebsd-update on my slow test machine is actually alive :D --=20 Michael Gmelin