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Hausen" Cc: Warner Losh , marklmi@yahoo.com, tsoome@freebsd.org, lwhsu@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changes to the zfs boot (was: Re: git: 72a1cb05cd23 - main - rc(8): Add a zpoolupgrade rc.d script) References: <202211070339.2A73dJlO027991@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20221107121514.Horde.nulS9Wg1s3yzAsXXkuJRBa9@webmail.leidinger.net> <20221108105053.Horde.eqgFiBJe2ngGAj6BkXcv5-Z@webmail.leidinger.net> <20221109134610.Horde.JB7ibQTWprHbmIUfhg7JY7f@webmail.leidinger.net> <460205F9-5D59-4033-813B-C34E01BFD6C4@hausen.com> <20221109204509.Horde.lh5parVrWDSJ7kQCFa64hqe@webmail.leidinger.net> <5AFBB434-BB3B-4B5A-AB32-11DAFD03A2AD@hausen.com> <20221109205846.Horde.Rm5dcHB7p4mSbfFmxReYEDW@webmail.leidinger.net> <6C570897-1C17-43EF-A19C-0F50DA2669B0@hausen.com> <20221109211523.Horde.3dLzlxI4V6n_crjLsz_d08E@webmail.leidinger.net> <63316DBD-FFB7-44BA-ADD3-CACBE715518D@hausen.com> In-Reply-To: <63316DBD-FFB7-44BA-ADD3-CACBE715518D@hausen.com> Accept-Language: de,en Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_JwB9eaLzW-IX9D0XjJsiEyU"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4N6xTV2ThZz45qJ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:89.238.64.0/18, country:DE] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_JwB9eaLzW-IX9D0XjJsiEyU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022=20=20 21:19:23=20+0100): > Hi, > >> Am 09.11.2022 um 21:15 schrieb Alexander Leidinger=20=20 >>=20: >> Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022=20=20 >>=2021:02:52 +0100): >>> Yet, I made it a habit to whenever I see this message: >>> >>> ----------- >>> status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. The pool c= an >>> still be used, but some features are unavailable. >>> action: Enable all features using 'zpool upgrade'. Once this is done, >>> the pool may no longer be accessible by software that does not support >>> the features. See zpool-features(7) for details. >>> ----------- >>> >>> to do a "zpool upgrade" after some time of burn in followed by an=20=20 >>>=20update of the >>> boot loader. >>> >>> I desire to know if that is in fact dangerous. >> >> Ugh. This changed. It is indeed dangerous now. I just tested it=20=20 >>=20with a non-root pool which didn't had all flags enabled. "zpool=20=20 >>=20upgrade " will now enable all features. > > I know. But until now I assumed that features *enabled* but not=20=20 >=20*used* were not impeding booting. > And that for all others the boot loader was supposed to keep track. Some features are used directly when enabled. Some features go back to=20= =20 the=20enabled state when some conditions are met. Some features are not=20= =20 reversible=20without re-creating the pool (e.g. device_removal). The=20=20 zzpool-features=20man-page gives explanations which features belong into=20= =20 which=20category. 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