From nobody Wed Nov 09 20:19:47 2022 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4N6xCb3JkQz4XJ7M for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 20:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mailgate.Leidinger.net (mailgate.leidinger.net [IPv6:2a00:1828:2000:313::1:5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (Client CN "mailgate.leidinger.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4N6xCb1nrYz41y9; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 20:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@leidinger.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p508d4280.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.141.66.128]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (Client CN "outgoing.leidinger.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mailgate.Leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A36F22A77; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 21:19:50 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1668025190; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=CvgNjpOe+3529O4EoJgeUOmlgO5jpOg4QGoZR+xrLi0=; b=MBtkrN/8NDezb9afIjXWDDLdT37sLKOCsoGv3WiFuzMlm/KQbfVQYX6iNJI8CgJd7citAP j4diXPP5Cc/MPCBytt7kg1S7Zq4slEfFRaKqez0dQvPYHzLOcGBhnhFUzb6Q1E+qL8k7I/ 0JArV9eciSOckJFd3NZMQZZPeh/RHg1frJxE2JEXXrKVLSY2ssr74KV6c7Ct7TEyUR//mf HBRErqNFsEG5sKaclmUNzTROHT57FdDe6NlOP7pGDxVuvHLLiWOlyTsSYzEbrORYKx4od9 DJPswPHWM3R2P21C/EKslWtypL1XM+eCQgw0oE5V4nH4ybjDzXnQKOy95ZQ7+g== Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43B823706; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 21:19:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 21:19:47 +0100 Message-ID: <20221109211947.Horde.F4xwQw3LUvp0P2aLceiZdwf@webmail.leidinger.net> From: Alexander Leidinger To: Mark Millard Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" , Warner Losh , tsoome@freebsd.org, Li-Wen Hsu , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changes to the zfs boot (was: Re: git: 72a1cb05cd23 - main - rc(8): Add a zpoolupgrade rc.d script) References: <202211070339.2A73dJlO027991@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20221107121514.Horde.nulS9Wg1s3yzAsXXkuJRBa9@webmail.leidinger.net> <20221108105053.Horde.eqgFiBJe2ngGAj6BkXcv5-Z@webmail.leidinger.net> <20221109134610.Horde.JB7ibQTWprHbmIUfhg7JY7f@webmail.leidinger.net> <460205F9-5D59-4033-813B-C34E01BFD6C4@hausen.com> <20221109204509.Horde.lh5parVrWDSJ7kQCFa64hqe@webmail.leidinger.net> <5AFBB434-BB3B-4B5A-AB32-11DAFD03A2AD@hausen.com> <20221109205846.Horde.Rm5dcHB7p4mSbfFmxReYEDW@webmail.leidinger.net> <671B1F82-A167-45D0-8BCC-4717F433BC11@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <671B1F82-A167-45D0-8BCC-4717F433BC11@yahoo.com> Accept-Language: de,en Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_KjnKPZ7hG5wsqE2Wc6h-oZ7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4N6xCb1nrYz41y9 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:2a00:1828::/32, country:DE] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_KjnKPZ7hG5wsqE2Wc6h-oZ7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Mark Millard (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022=20=20 12:10:18=20-0800): > On Nov 9, 2022, at 11:58, Alexander Leidinger=20=20 >=20 wrote: > >> Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022=20=20 >>=2020:49:37 +0100): >> >>> Hi, >>> >>>> Am 09.11.2022 um 20:45 schrieb Alexander Leidinger=20=20 >>>>=20: >>>> But "zpool set feature@edonr=3Denabled rpool" (or any other feature=20= =20 >>>>=20not in the list we talk about) would render it unbootable. >>> >>> Sorry, just to be sure. So an active change of e.g. checksum or=20=20 >>>=20compression algorithm >>> might render the system unbootable but a zpool upgrade never will?=20= =20 >>>=20At least not intentionally? ;-) >> >> If you mean "zpool upgrade", then no (modulo bugs). OpenZFS uses=20=20 >>=20the feature flags instead of zpool upgrade. > > I'm confused by that answer: See my correction in another mail, the behavior seems to have changed=20=20 and=20yes, doing a zpool upgrade on a boot pool should not be done. Maybe someone wants to check or add provisions to not do that on a=20=20 pool=20which has the bootfs property set. 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