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[46.114.25.242]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id k11-20020a1709062a4b00b00726abf9a32bsm15216848eje.138.2022.07.07.14.49.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Jul 2022 14:49:12 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.100.31\)) Subject: Re: Accessibility in the FreeBSD installer and console Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 23:49:10 +0200 References: <45ACA785-05BF-496B-8D0A-AD2A4A2293D1@googlemail.com> To: John Kennedy , Hans Petter Selasky , freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <08A452AA-E8C1-4C7B-AD25-A2930EB03556@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.100.31) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Lf96K5c93z3WVv X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=googlemail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="gtC/M/Xu"; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=googlemail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of maciphone2@googlemail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::636 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=maciphone2@googlemail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20210112]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::636:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > Am 07.07.2022 um 23:26 schrieb John Kennedy : >=20 > On Thu, Jul 07, 2022 at 10:11:52PM +0200, Klaus K=C3=BCchemann wrote: >>> Am 07.07.2022 um 19:32 schrieb Hans Petter Selasky : >>> The only argument I've heard from some non-sighted friends about not = using FreeBSD natively is that ooh, MacOSX is so cool. It starts = speaking from the start if I press this and this key. Is anyone here = working on or wanting such a feature? >>=20 >> Possibly they didn=E2=80=99t want to be rude and your friends didn't = tell you the other argument :-) : according to the corresponding wiki = page FreeBSD doesn't natively support any audio output at all on your = friends current M1 Mac hardware. >> since quite nothing is currently supported you probably will first = take over working on the Audio driver =E2=80=A6..and of course USB :-) >=20 > I think a huge benefit that Apple would have is that they might be > able to guarantee some sort of audio speaker, period, since they > control the hardware that the software runs on. That might be a big = ask > on FreeBSD, but maybe if there was some relatively ubiqitous=20 >=20 `found=20 < =E2=80=A2 Introduced tascodec(4), a driver for the TI TAS2770/TAS5770 = digital audio amplifier codec found on Apple M1 Macs. =09 =E2=80=A2 Introduced aplnco(4), a driver for the Numerically-controlled = oscillator (NCO) clock which drives the audio clocks on Apple silicon. > in https://www.openbsd.org/plus71.html and for some stunning fun : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D2B-XwPjn9YY#t=3D03m17s =20 (start minute 3:17 )=20 :-)