Re: [HEADSUP] making /bin/sh the default shell for root

On 2021-09-23 09:40, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
>> 
>> Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>:
>> 
>> > On 22/09/2021 22:50, grarpamp wrote:
>> >>> propose to make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE
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>> 
>> Whoever wants is free to add other users with root pemissions is free
>> to do so.
> 
> That is a zero sum argument.  Ie, same can be said about those who
> wish to have the current default changed.  Changing that default is
> actually going to require NEW special casing of any code that expects
> the now 30+ year default.  Those who DO like it changed, have already
> made changes to have it changed, so changing the default only adds
> to work for both parties, to me a net loss.
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I'm well inclined to agree here. But my past expressions of such have
been largely been ignored. In *this* case; it's not a big affect for me;
as I roll out all my updates from build farms. So all my users are already
predefined, and their dot files are preserved. But still,
more changes == more work. :-(

Out of curiosity; has anyone actually done a real assessment to determine
the *actual* value of this (proposed) change? I mean in the end, do we
really know the cost to loss ratio?

--Chris
> 
> Leave the defaults alone, provide tools and such to make it easier
> for people to tweak those defaults on install.  Stop adding work
> to both the people who like how it is now, and people who like
> the idea of this change, its not productive for anyone.
> 
> 
>> Rolf M Dietze