From nobody Fri Oct 22 11:37:14 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28FF181070D for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 11:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x52e.google.com (mail-ed1-x52e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HbMlN5nVCz3mYp; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 11:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ed1-x52e.google.com with SMTP id r4so5662310edi.5; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 04:37:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gnJ7aq719masclDyoYnZ7Wcr4w5cMiXDj9PRy0NCRko=; b=B3X6TgEtogJwEeBGvkZ2f53tEnImJCVoqyVE8WP4DR9i2mBW345MUocDUiOntisWz4 jffv78BcY5Tn4b18St/mOAx1I82MMEkbXE9hpwq+0GqvLLsTSzvsoeMiXbfBfwOI6Oy/ kxMkm4deL+sFjhIq/pKQljwSjHErTQmZ3otoCSFF5zbEyzCVDDIgVHegKS4zteRxSvEU fJvTegf5ovXTchWtR5wCtvqJJsQlxAh81xL5cX+sZLY3h6cNRE83AZVr30n6IO+bWg4m UfoyTkaolSVZQ1sOS8bY6VCwkc/c/PO8bV1+9tAQ2t5Z61Ua+n6CE7aPNd8cb0cWBMVM TgoA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gnJ7aq719masclDyoYnZ7Wcr4w5cMiXDj9PRy0NCRko=; b=HSRqW5QHYY3ScTA00iqrnd30o/iJsFSPpOoMURs1piz7Aibw5Wpzh+J8l/4FhrDjFJ PpmnFChgBn00dfS07QHQPONfacZDbVLkHgAyjDXGIkrL2uEhDz5Q+r2WKaNKjwJ9/KlI 9ha6frfJ2vTqxNxgTL3E1KPUCvZsjbJ/7eUipjorpsv3DbzDwZTHS+TOiknY2Aw0AInF iEflUZAp7rYrl9A+HBBGKs1q7mklpODb/LRF9loO+qWKIZc5C0wFdMNlWpSIBNnaucCv Cx5qrPHJk2/Yfjg8hDebNICDe0bKwcGsA/IrPD/BoLSKrzwB7BYtYC/w4inEdVCbGQce 2+AQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530aEomjbwSWZ4h8u9QgSmi8wKSDO+2GPfYzsEWOXtC/VAoHMUcw /XTntUOQwdFFkpcrSSaTplMxqRniVpU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyAzyrdfiS328aYC4HTG9r96Sihmn2v1iSfdDPwUCVxkf2/0yfE01ene0EYTyrTdC27msW8dQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:919:: with SMTP id i25mr14720129ejd.171.1634902638891; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 04:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ernst.home (p5b3becad.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [91.59.236.173]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i21sm3583707eja.50.2021.10.22.04.37.17 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 22 Oct 2021 04:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 13:37:14 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Julian Elischer Cc: freebsd-current , Julian Elischer Subject: Re: Curious minds .. etc Message-ID: <20211022133714.6112f634@ernst.home> In-Reply-To: <853f9dd2-4a19-7267-4be5-ffa9d6c7659a@freebsd.org> References: <853f9dd2-4a19-7267-4be5-ffa9d6c7659a@freebsd.org> Reply-To: gljennjohn@gmail.com X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.18.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HbMlN5nVCz3mYp X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 01:07:47 -0700 Julian Elischer wrote: > Several years ago (OK, maybe 12 years ago) I did an experiment where I unpacked a > freebsd 1.1 (or maybe 2.0?) image into a subdirectory, and after installing various > compat packagesand options and a.out support and changing MAX_PID to be 60000, I was able to > chroot to it and do a "make world". Things were stupidly fast. > > > Has anyone been able to do such a thing in recent years? One wonders what options one > would need and what the oldest Version we could run in this way was.. > Well, there's still a /usr/ports/misc/compat4x, which is the oldest version supported. So that could still work, although it's not obvious whether it will work with e.g. FBSD-14. The most recent compat version is for 12x. The good old days, when the kernel was on the order of 90kB and 256kB of memory was a lot and big disks had one or two hundred MB. -- Gary Jennejohn