Re: What happen to mailing list archives?

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 22:35:20 +0200
Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 12:30:46AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote:
> > On 2021-Jun-6, at 13:25, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > Baptiste Daroussin <bapt_at_FreeBSD.org> wrote on
> > > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 10:53:49 +0200 :
> > >   
> > >> What has happended:
> > >> plan A: we migrated everything off mailman/pipermail seamlessly
> > >> with redirection and so on. We patched the new archiver to
> > >> produce the same file names has pipermail
> > >> 
> > >> Plan A worked fine up to a limit, there was plenty of hand
> > >> edition in the past, we we decided to move to plan B which is
> > >> what is happening now.
> > >> 
> > >> Plan B: We keep a frozen version of the archives up to the
> > >> migration date under the pipermail directory and have the new
> > >> archives created in the archives directory.
> > >> 
> > >> All the pipermail archives have been restored as they were. The
> > >> new archives receives in their index a new link to point people
> > >> to the pipermails archive if looking for older archives.
> > >> 
> > >> this has been done a couple of hours ago (before Steve emails)
> > >> during a window, of ~ 10 hours, the mailing lists which slow
> > >> traffic aka the one which didn't received any email since the
> > >> migration ended up with an empty "archives" directory (aka a
> > >> 404), a file with explanation and redirection to pipermail has
> > >> been installed there.
> > >> 
> > >> Some work is still needed for the mailing lists which has been
> > >> transformed as readonly, this will be done in the next couple of
> > >> days  
> > > 
> > > It is too bad that a reference to a "no examples yet"
> > > month, such as, (at the time I write this):
> > > 
> > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-toolchain/2021-June/date.html
> > > 
> > > does not show at least (Date view specific example):
> > > 
> > > 	• Other periods:[ Previous, Date view ] [ List of Folders
> > > ]
> > > 	• Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from
> > > mailman's time ]
> > > 
> > > when there are prior months available in
> > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/ or show at least just:
> > > 
> > > 	• Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from
> > > mailman's time ]
> > > 
> > > when no prior months are available there.
> > >   
> > 
> > Looks like there are missing months.
> > 
> > Using freebsd-hackers as an example:
> > 
> > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/index.html
> > shows the oldest month being "May 2021".
> > 
> > But . . .
> > 
> > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/
> > shows the most recent month being "September 2020".
> > 
> > So: 2020-Oct through 2021-Apr are completely missing.
> > 
> > Then, going for more detail for 2020-Sep and 2021-May . . .
> > 
> > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2021-May/date.html
> > shows "Starting Tue May 18 2021 - 21:07:44 UTC".
> > 
> > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2020-September/date.html
> > shows "Ending: Tue Sep 15 14:12:20 UTC 2020".
> > 
> > So there are about 2 more half-months missing.
> > 
> > Some other lists have other date ranges, some similar,
> > some not.  
> 
> This missing month are being populated right now

Will historic links still work though (so that old references work and
current google results are ok)?

Just stumbled over this one:
https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-jail/2017-March/003360.html

Cheers
Michael

> 
> Best regards,
> Bapt



-- 
Michael Gmelin