From nobody Fri Jan 17 12:35:22 2025 X-Original-To: bugs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YZK2N6YQNz5kw4t for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YZK2N5rm9z3f36 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1737117324; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=2u3s7YPHnfnwsE7R8yzpsy9yj5U6LKYHRRtxka4gp9E=; b=Ky4DCEO9FPbFp2M5+bhi/+0vXtjoWLlKajxo4655kovzaV2saor9ChCK2ljfiHSWZkkcWl +l6c4fM6190eoScXOg62dSo/ikqUV3t3AQz/7N2Kk/4wfksZbHq7ZcDii0MVB6BElqTehe pkDb5qFsUhiVLIx9yRghR5pe3ftTBFyOPy/QiN1oBOhbVxNybtCjTYPE2XC4z/iBcWlyXT FKiMWlGG32vYsJZ1MizcHJ/qe77w1nZ2dniQkBN1PL1KdXWhNRH8UGciuMKSpO5b7vESRo L90vXGIorWhxiS5lGHvviLHD8OjhFH8aC1dSMa9cKjGVWLKw5mvaJk7SvrA8uQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1737117324; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=2u3s7YPHnfnwsE7R8yzpsy9yj5U6LKYHRRtxka4gp9E=; b=MdsvyCMg4PaeMqOt+6NftE3++J5yJghvWCPpXd74brdzNjNA60CVJZZ6zTandlb+x+gwoU Wty14wvDubVU0IiED1ydT6moorC7RiL/iF7eENcDZnUkOseHd9ZzFGjxTaDLty9xt60v/c nZ4I6seyTjjqbdf6XPaynEnpMHxNsdX8BHENNh68ipuueWpEPzxj6eC5Qj9Jbq9EB1Ewdn GSqmKE3wk6xx2udJ8rGn4cTwiGIyFTZKwhjImDWCScZzCpcyN45F4unDJE3IMha7oIGfzd i9SB6zsu3Oxx6VdIC7bTQXMqOhQiSTOLBv98nLsgxheLgIXT9MvIUkVCu2L/YQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1737117324; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=nxQGea/Stq0CKiMb96V11bjsNjiQx7XIUb6852ZFuCitLFDr26QKipwspSbHAVV/ZUn2JJ 3StyKE9TKCq9hFcmI2ZZW7d6z+LeI5SE4KnQJmGc+hsIhSV02t/NKST6cfSv2S1B0kkVDd Dwyg80EbLWpCkYbROKDuhO3I53XAaRsn1SrslTRVkV77vnAQN54RQO3OwsB+VPmx41HR5e /dmAnkehf/Ik3212TRp+U5iQiLHWjogbXCWvjz5yDGuUMoP9heEtb/TZS56hYUlf2PGG9q QMUXs0ZPz/F1fHSXKUBSxahxRaxloJCbotaqgdnX2aIQYRY/neMDO0q8sEiqvg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YZK2N5LQGz391 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 50HCZOjd046176 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:35:24 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 50HCZOsM046175 for bugs@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:35:24 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 280941] The reboot command considered harmful Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:35:22 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: bin X-Bugzilla-Version: Unspecified X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: ant-x@rambler.ru X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: bugs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Bug reports List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-bugs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D280941 --- Comment #10 from Anton Shepelev --- Maxim Konovalov: > While it might be counter-intuitive to some people there > is obviously a cohort that finds the current behavior > quite intuitive. I am one of them and used to what > reboot(8) has been doing for decades. Habit is not intuition. For exaple, vi's `hjkl' navigation is not intuituve, yet users learn it by constant practice. I still insist that `reboot' is counter-intuitive because by default and without any parameters it should perform a normal, graceful reboot. Ed Maste: > > a new command-line option, such as -f > > I like the idea, but -f is already taken: > > reboot [-cDdflNnpqr] [-e variable=3Dvalue] [-k kernel] [-o options] Who'd imagine so meny options and parameters to `reboot'? Where did you find them? On official man-page the syntax differs: reboot [-cdlNnpqr] [-k kernel] Anyway, even if -f (for fast) and -q (for quick) are taken -- something I ought to have checked myself -- how about the uppercase -F? --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=