From nobody Sat Apr 15 15:36:14 2023 X-Original-To: bugs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PzHTp6yltz45WlP for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 15:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PzHTp5cBYz46Y6 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 15:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1681572974; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=aKLclRzqvOzF3USb8BV0/+qNbq+BojDR0krxFE7rfYs=; b=vmPFzY17QrK6rxEKc1fdue/YBvfCF13wMyLRKdRFrZZB0DSd2f9YeWW0PNoSKH/lM1aFtz dpOJ5T+EzCvTGH34dspSDNlWYNtbL4/qvYS0DCw9Nu6iioXJDTT0rFgYddThKVXeUxnhjL +95MEN0vIKdsecPCdop3cYzmIesHKk6xIBgX3q3HGzQVKjcP2G4WrnWUrsvzEUgaMDVd8V UCA3e0Iv8xakkN/StBerYU8z+DGyi3Sc+1fOik9X1BVEk49zqLAkFlC1O6vXonUq7JgQ6c +fHBrPLaatJ7Y/clbPzR5DUDrMjMPOFYblVZ5j2IpZQiyrqADyDoiSXbAyq/Aw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1681572974; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=FCYDHTfpjeGxCLpRmMpdi/z0E9TuDljgjsjihiuw+8K1umG+3OsChDmva8XBkSqni0kA1s 3Rjh9AMEPZFaxC38ljey1bgDw03DviPoeFaVcUq+IK2ZiuRHN+XZ14udzAkqBDJIgionMf mNjpkAR3tVwoj9TzMdwA1+IuanfRVQJ5xRfKU5+fw+VEFpJJdum5Ff3kJLvjMqBcvpPQLi YheM7ZwvItVmXg2V9tXbaRDoQJj3mW7WEKvW8it8bcxWJR7b5QRyrVBLB2S7BDyI8psfWa y1JtWLNmaVuKOTDJ4Fhil+pW8slcTMByNsmEyi8ujftwlLfCqizcYZIDPK9nmg== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PzHTp4glbz19xQ for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 15:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 33FFaEek019242 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 15:36:14 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 33FFaEUW019241 for bugs@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 15:36:14 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 270852] Extra characters in config files after upgrade with freebsd-update(8) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 15:36:14 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: bin X-Bugzilla-Version: 13.2-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: needs-qa X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: bektas@yahoo.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: bugs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Bug reports List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-bugs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D270852 --- Comment #2 from Kenan Bektas --- ... If a person has the expertise to intentionally remove a user that's normall= y a part of FreeBSD, I should expect the person to be prepared for reintroducti= on of the user as part of a normal freebsd-update routine.=20 ... I beg to differ. It is not about user's skills. We are all human beings, in many circumstances even most skillfull ones will certainly act differently. The points are: - If I am the admin, it is my decision to have removed users back or not. N= ot the update script's. I am the one responsible for the system, after all, not update script. Certain things could be automated but this one is not one of= =20 those. - If the system has been running perfectly without those users for years, it clearly proves that the suggested practice not really necessary. In short, we need to trust (admin) users and offer some freedom rather than= the approach of "we designers know everything, hence, just follow the direction= s". PS: Totally agree with documenting these instances in the handbook. Thanks,. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=