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: p yea, nbsd was already mentioned=2E as was obsd=2E as was linux=2E=2E=2E as= possible alternatives=2E but hell eh this is not all about all ancient hw either=2E 486 machines=2E isa cards= =2E pcmcia=2E things like this=2E those indeed go to nbsd but more recent=2E one could argue about recentness of 32bit arm tho it was at least fun to help to push to support all hw in bbb=2E now it's = dead=2E i mean yes, it's old now=2E h3 is blazing fast compared to this=2E = unless it's just code optimizing issue but yeah, i can continue this=2E could still test bbb if needed could do new hw too=2E in my limited knowledge i don't likely become fbsd dev=2E not me=2E as in write c=2E "actually" do= hw=2E but could do other things at least aarch64 embedded hw would be bit longer lived in fbsd, no? right now i have this h618 but need help getting current fit for it so i c= an test and report how it goes=2E boards for that are cheaper than rpi too = sometimes, depending on config then, lot of people have even been confused what i search for, even as a h= obby=2E as somehow, os-independent even, common usage would be home router = or desktop=2E and almost all rpi=2E if it's bigger, it's server, if smaller= , it's uc=2E weird too on the other hand, other type of users arent that hidden either=2E or mayb= e they are? so i can't see myself bringing that h618, like on orange pi zero =2E=2E=2E= something board, into tree on my own, but it's good to to have that or som= ething similarly configd/priced/available with fbsd support hell knows what to think of, of all this anyway of course getting wifi there is like pipe dream too i see=2E sdio doesn't = get anywhere, there is whole one driver there iirc which basically does not= hing? and then there was this linux kernel compat for drivers in hope to extend = hw support=2E maybe affects stability but maybe it's acceptable in some cas= es so yeah fbsd is kiiiiind of difficult isn't it=2E in that area