From nobody Thu Mar 21 07:36:42 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-arm@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4V0ct75gmVz5FQYc for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2024 07:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dsl@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4V0ct73Rtdz4m0R; Thu, 21 Mar 2024 07:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dsl@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1711007071; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=g4xna/yYd7gD6wLRZTNlKo4XPBnECRG4nNeBdhBVnos=; b=V/glyKYFhHmvzG5kR+YZd4RoPZARSRyAEa1E9Jfte78ZcJFjLYyJ0u7CjAJELgSO/AsS4/ g6yq01XiBqC/0DPaXTnUq7VagVWWA0BQe1EtHp0VK8i3WNg0a+dvgLc9ODdIuOiC+oKipN fIt+wbJiScL3FXD4r7C5HrHvM6PPkrO35Zc8KvEjrN9lV+jj2p7xZnnWXDCU1ryhJ3j/+R ZOZ1MPpfkmtd4G2mrZwFDikGap17Lvr0yiwKp1eW/GnUSqQwkPGGQZT+2BkSlMagz/Zchx MYiBVkf5yyknB9YR5RI3RQy2ch+1ZzGvoIhQudSem6Eu4VHGHh37eXoRNJvGYA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1711007071; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=hQL7MGlUaq/5pnQ3sTMJmjD6CBDqlquhgBAG2TSDBuea8JKZae4YI0YAcl8PsYxoL0Fp9l RdKcKf2cOk0+7jOF2L+a5b8yvYthCBNVW2RF3EIPSL6CKxPee1ogcO+aem2EgXya0yK3OI KTac3HMxrJF6ouK0p6E+q6x7U95iYq18sMpGyxJvxXIlcD8XWCDpJwGf5l/vDn7E2phLTz ME2qFhaK8PJHuYs06Bcay8OfK/TZ4QNhNIEKsmQaUNm7+5VlNWyOdRw43C29b11nOxnTgZ c2NEAF9XJQvaXZf6xPOv9Ud5CxyUzPPaIybTk4fH9dSCu2w4G8XJiE0bCU12HQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1711007071; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=g4xna/yYd7gD6wLRZTNlKo4XPBnECRG4nNeBdhBVnos=; b=PIKMnb/kFfTpuSIeRdCV/G9GcljRRJ5g3bizwPHXB6rdEVZZNBL6Q1XabOSYM3piiHIaaN nz+aw0Z+WhGktj3Q3oU921IyCNHo98vG5diuG/gXA+rkVB7P+u2Fs9FtSeB6XY9mKkUigM nGdGOsk3mGCfpY0RAGGADGc6fq5n747H/GGFdqKgDnQwogSZLOKezSLrgN6SRtLmQcaFFr pKfXiAZRmUz6QCdeD06rTRGg1CKZ8ByskshzVqMHPSBAhIIPqTv54pDgM9/eiNfDtoyeAu ce2UeUqyP9fj/8+VC7hvOes+2PtZwo3aq41gC8XF7VJvESUf/kmhwahaq8JyUA== Received: from localhost (unknown [91.226.51.235]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: dsl) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4V0ct66TYzzcS4; Thu, 21 Mar 2024 07:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dsl@FreeBSD.org) References: <3a9870c3-e29c-4782-a148-57684d1f917d@gmx.at> <4a896a4e-cdb5-4351-ad29-8e014321f776@gmail.com> <876b9d58-6aba-460b-b972-0bd373936ca9@app.fastmail.com> <864jd0ul39.fsf@peasant.tower.home> <960f1b83-b169-4249-946c-c8f7f31595db@app.fastmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.8.13; emacs 29.2 From: Dmitry Salychev To: Dave Cottlehuber Cc: freebsd-arm , Joseph Holsten Subject: Re: free ARM VPS Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:36:42 +0100 In-reply-to: <960f1b83-b169-4249-946c-c8f7f31595db@app.fastmail.com> Message-ID: <86zfust4f7.fsf@peasant.tower.home> List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Dave Cottlehuber" writes: > On Thu, 21 Mar 2024, at 06:56, Dmitry Salychev wrote: >> "Joseph Holsten" writes: >> >>> There is a FreeBSD image in the =E2=80=9CMarketplace=E2=80=9D. There wa= s a mixup >>> last fall and 14 isn=E2=80=99t up yet, but some foundation folks are >>> actively working on it. If you use the official one, it=E2=80=99s just a >>> quick freebsd-update to get you there. >>> >>> If you have trouble with the service, feel free to yell at >>> me. Juggling support tickets and ops projects for Oracle Cloud >>> Compute is my day job. I use FreeBSD daily outside work, I want it >>> not to suck. >> >> Is it really suitable as a replacement for a RootBSD/NetActuate VPS to r= un >> a mail server + some minor pieces? > > Hi Dmitry, > > Yes. TLDR consider them as fully fledged server CPUs because they are. > The hardest part is the signup process: > > - https://people.freebsd.org/~dch/posts/2021-06-02-oci-signup.html > > It's a standard arm64 CPUs from Ampere (hw.model: ARM Neoverse-N1 r3p1) > and quite capable of running anything. I run DBs (PostgreSQL, CouchDB), > DNS services & Phoenix web apps off them, all in jails ofc. The free > tier gives 4 CPU cores (no hyperthreading garbage!), 24GiB RAM, and > IIRC up to 200GiB storage. That's plenty. > > Here's an OCI ampere doing `openssl speed` (single threaded) > but very non-scientific as the ampere is running 14.0-RELEASE, and > Ten64 is ofc running CURRENT DEBUG + witness. > > Ampere: (14.0-RELEASE GENERIC) > type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 b= ytes 16384 bytes > sha256 77675.94k 280389.41k 774386.13k 1396836.35k 182959= 0.81k 1871025.49k > > Ten64: (15-CURRENT DEBUG) > type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 b= ytes 16384 bytes > sha256 13622.39k 50566.72k 166540.20k 387515.05k 64124= 3.92k 665962.87k > > If you want to test something let me know. > > A+ > Dave Hi Dave, 4 CPU cores, 24GiB RAM, and 200GiB storage is significantly more then I'm paying NetActuate for on monthly basis :) It looks like I needed an account yesterday. Thanks for a comparison and all of the details! I'll try to sign up an tinker on my own first. Regards, Dmitry --=20 https://wiki.freebsd.org/DmitrySalychev