From nobody Thu Mar 21 07:25:51 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-arm@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4V0cT16H2Vz5FNcX for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2024 07:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from fhigh8-smtp.messagingengine.com (fhigh8-smtp.messagingengine.com [103.168.172.159]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4V0cT14RJJz4j0x; Thu, 21 Mar 2024 07:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailfhigh.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F9F1140131; Thu, 21 Mar 2024 03:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap44 ([10.202.2.94]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 21 Mar 2024 03:26:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skunkwerks.at; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type :date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1711005972; x=1711092372; bh=yTDGzMhEc1ygOl2dCJ6VA1RfKPywkSiS nMlOVxdojB0=; b=Rb2qmW8tVo9+7nzuajhB9D4xjLpxs3oDA93Vmsfdx58joagk 3v7Z686nWQQUrrMCouXRWMx2k/4dwnWNnRvEEPFUGlPk14txNl+z1C1fgbAdtNWb WnkdDVKBOeED31mKkqU19qX7eICy09MR2BeJnVzMSrhS+LVjda9+7VLMBdh9YDFU KIM683RA5uiCv5F2LKz867bc1LQN155ozETJyzQsynBv9W2aJFdYI6HiHXW/epYY BJbTJoN5bjmYdLm3oh3XY1Y9r42F/tKetmFYn6QbGNVs9fQHbNzLBBl+4J5hlK8I 7aJpQmyWiJpXD2lsFOG2fOyAvktaJ9XBMTVXwg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t=1711005972; x= 1711092372; bh=yTDGzMhEc1ygOl2dCJ6VA1RfKPywkSiSnMlOVxdojB0=; b=Q 99itdNViQ8CQpMU7f0xvJXOH4LFcRdrvOah9U2lqSUDXzLLM7oAicIwN0eZgBd26 oFkL/ha33tvdflZ+Q9C3Z1VzqirP7Gzs/umG11Mif0zk2nzxKNOevJ6ST8lRfUDW 7thzk2lVZDtXaRuSF3zz9omwVu/Ph+CJuNnlMxtk+QFY+ZnBrcoyc+Mz+YyNaItB 5a3lxafscxUPOB+HcfXEQKSauI94qv6V4QAsfI4OYc6cO1zSHQxAV+npwYF26sfR wVY/kJ3QRn9iEBZCtcNDVcLWWBNBImpuZLttK1cAwBzU2VHZUmYAtddVFXKtw/HU HReg7cSxWGvANRUyvifLQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvledrleehgddutdejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvfevufgtgfesthhqredtreerjeenucfhrhhomhepfdff rghvvgcuvehothhtlhgvhhhusggvrhdfuceouggthhesshhkuhhnkhifvghrkhhsrdgrth eqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepkeffvefggfeiheehvddugfdvffduieelgfefkedthfej tddttdetheetffdutddunecuffhomhgrihhnpehfrhgvvggsshgurdhorhhgnecuvehluh hsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepuggthhesshhkuhhn khifvghrkhhsrdgrth X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ic0e84090:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id D54A636A0076; Thu, 21 Mar 2024 03:26:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.11.0-alpha0-332-gdeb4194079-fm-20240319.002-gdeb41940 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <960f1b83-b169-4249-946c-c8f7f31595db@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <864jd0ul39.fsf@peasant.tower.home> References: <3a9870c3-e29c-4782-a148-57684d1f917d@gmx.at> <4a896a4e-cdb5-4351-ad29-8e014321f776@gmail.com> <876b9d58-6aba-460b-b972-0bd373936ca9@app.fastmail.com> <864jd0ul39.fsf@peasant.tower.home> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 07:25:51 +0000 From: "Dave Cottlehuber" To: "Dmitry Salychev" Cc: freebsd-arm , "Joseph Holsten" Subject: Re: free ARM VPS Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209242, ipnet:103.168.172.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4V0cT14RJJz4j0x On Thu, 21 Mar 2024, at 06:56, Dmitry Salychev wrote: > "Joseph Holsten" writes: > >> There is a FreeBSD image in the =E2=80=9CMarketplace=E2=80=9D. There = was a mixup last fall and 14 isn=E2=80=99t up yet, but some foundation f= olks are actively working on it. If you use the official one, it=E2=80=99= s just a quick freebsd-update to get you there. >> >> If you have trouble with the service, feel free to yell at me. Juggli= ng support tickets and ops projects for Oracle Cloud Compute is my day j= ob. I use FreeBSD daily outside work, I want it not to suck. > > Is it really suitable as a replacement for a RootBSD/NetActuate VPS to= run > a mail server + some minor pieces? Hi Dmitry, Yes. TLDR consider them as fully fledged server CPUs because they are. The hardest part is the signup process: - https://people.freebsd.org/~dch/posts/2021-06-02-oci-signup.html It's a standard arm64 CPUs from Ampere (hw.model: ARM Neoverse-N1 r3p1) and quite capable of running anything. I run DBs (PostgreSQL, CouchDB), DNS services & Phoenix web apps off them, all in jails ofc. The free tier gives 4 CPU cores (no hyperthreading garbage!), 24GiB RAM, and IIRC up to 200GiB storage. That's plenty. Here's an OCI ampere doing `openssl speed` (single threaded) but very non-scientific as the ampere is running 14.0-RELEASE, and Ten64 is ofc running CURRENT DEBUG + witness. Ampere: (14.0-RELEASE GENERIC) type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 = bytes 16384 bytes sha256 77675.94k 280389.41k 774386.13k 1396836.35k 18295= 90.81k 1871025.49k Ten64: (15-CURRENT DEBUG) type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 = bytes 16384 bytes sha256 13622.39k 50566.72k 166540.20k 387515.05k 6412= 43.92k 665962.87k If you want to test something let me know. A+ Dave