Re: ntpd vs ntpdate with no hardware clock

On Sun, Jul 7, 2024, 11:54 AM Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jul 7, 2024, at 10:23, bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 11:18:56AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jul 7, 2024, 11:16 AM Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I created fakertc for my rpi4.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/fakertc/
> >>>
> >>> Saves the time on shutdown and sets it back early at boot.
> >>>
> >>> Plus I use ntpdate together with ntpd. Works fine.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Curious why the root mod time isn't firing... it whould alrwady do that
> >>
> > Root mod time seems fairly laggy:
> > rprohask@www:~ % date
> > Sun Jul  7 10:20:38 PDT 2024
> > rprohask@www:~ % ls -al /
> > total 97
> > drwxr-xr-x  20 root wheel     512 Jul  5 13:21 .
> > drwxr-xr-x  20 root wheel     512 Jul  5 13:21 ..
> > unless I'm misusing ls -al, of course....
>
> I mount with noatime in use. Do you?
>

Doesn't matter since it's in the superblock.

Are you trying to show:
>
> time when file was created (-Ul)
> time when file status was last changed (-cl)
> time when file was last modified (-l)
> time of last access (-ul)
>
> You implicitly specified "last modified". So
> when was the last change to the root directory
> representation? It likely is not modified often.
> (Modifications to file content and subdirectories
> would not modify / of itself.)
>

It's in the superblock. Time of last unmount / update (I'd recalled
incorrectly).

linux can have relatime vs. strictatime modes.
> relatime mode updates the atime less often, via
> a rule set. A linux can have relatime by default.
>

Yea... none of that matters...

Warner

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