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From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <839065D4-58CC-4E59-9726-205BDFC01521@mit.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 13:46:07 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , freebsd-arm Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7177D97D-8980-4222-8679-EE3091D09AB8@yahoo.com> References: <5620735A-FB8A-4AFE-B4E4-32D0D8D58962.ref@yahoo.com> <5620735A-FB8A-4AFE-B4E4-32D0D8D58962@yahoo.com> <839065D4-58CC-4E59-9726-205BDFC01521@mit.edu> To: John F Carr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rmq9b50Dkz4XvM On Sep 14, 2023, at 10:46, John F Carr wrote: > This needs to be fixed. One massive compiler should not depend on = another massive > compiler just in case something in the tool chain wants to make an = HTTPS request. > Setting DOCS=3Doff does not fix the dependency. >=20 > Here is my list of stripped-down devel/llvm17 options that still = require rust >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> The following configuration options are available for = llvm17-17.0.0.r4: > BE_AMDGPU=3Doff: AMD GPU backend (required by mesa) > BE_WASM=3Doff: WebAssembly backend (required by firefox via wasi) > CLANG=3Don: Build clang > COMPILER_RT=3Don: Sanitizer libraries > DOCS=3Doff: Build and/or install documentation > EXTRAS=3Doff: Extra clang tools > FLANG=3Doff: Flang FORTRAN compiler > LIT=3Don: Install lit and FileCheck test tools > LLD=3Don: Install lld, the LLVM linker > LLDB=3Don: Install lldb, the LLVM debugger > MLIR=3Don: Multi-Level Intermediate Representation > OPENMP=3Doff: Install libomp, the LLVM OpenMP runtime library > POLLY=3Doff: Polyhedral loop and data-locality optimizer > PYCLANG=3Doff: Install python bindings to libclang > STATIC_LIBS=3Doff: Install static libraries (does not effect = sanitizers) > =3D=3D=3D=3D> Options available for the single BACKENDS: you have to = select exactly one of them > BE_FREEBSD=3Don: Backends for FreeBSD architectures > BE_NATIVE=3Doff: Backend(s) for this architecture (AArch64 ARM) > BE_STANDARD=3Doff: All non-experimental backends >=20 > rust does not currently build on my system so I can not build the = ports llvm17 or llvm-devel. (py39 happens to be what is in use in my context.) Even devel/llvm*@lite depends on py39-recommonmark --and that in turns leads to the sequence: py39-sphinx, py39-requests, py39-urllib3, py39-cryptography, py39-setuptools-rust, and rust. (The dependencies look to be basically runtime and test dependencies.) devel/llvm* always seems to be tied to recommonmark . [I'll note that recommonmark is in the process of being replaced upstream my myst-parser but that also leads down the same sphinx and later dependency sequence from what I can tell.] The system-clang builds avoid needing recommonmark (or the like). May be devel/llvm*'s could be updated to allow selecting such an avoidance? May be what actually uses recommonmark (or the like) could be separated into its own port that could optionally be built/installed? (Just vague ideas.) [Separately, just curious: Which resource limitations stop the building of rust in your context?] =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com