Re: State of the freebsd/crochet project?
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Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 08:52:30 UTC
[I've dropped Warner from my CC.] On Oct 20, 2023, at 01:44, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Oct 20, 2023, at 00:39, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On Oct 20, 2023, at 00:31, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> On Oct 19, 2023, at 22:30, Rahul Rameshbabu <sergeantsagara@protonmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 19 Oct, 2023 00:45:25 -0700 "Mark Millard" <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> On Oct 18, 2023, at 21:41, Rahul Rameshbabu <sergeantsagara@protonmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 17 Oct, 2023 09:01:33 -0600 "Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023, 7:44 AM void <void@f-m.fm> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 07:13:28AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Crochet has no active maintainers. Most people have moved on to poudriere. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does poudriere handle the msdos uboot *and* efi part when >>>>>>> creating the image? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. I worked with manu years ago to put all the needed metadata for the different boards into the ports... >>>>>> >>>>>> It does but it seems to have an unfortunate caveat. It assumes that >>>>>> FAT16 is supported by all embedded targets. The Raspberry Pi 4 and I >>>>>> assume the Pi 5 as well drop support for FAT16 >>>>> >>>>> The snapshot images booted the RPI4B's that I have access to just fine >>>>> last I tried such. But release/arm64/RPI.conf and release/tools/arm.subr >>>>> which are used to build such uses (selective axtractions across files): >>>>> >>>>> FAT_SIZE="50m -b 1m" >>>>> FAT_TYPE="16" >>>>> . . . >>>>> gpart add -t efi -l efi -a 512k -s ${FAT_SIZE} ${mddev} >>>>> newfs_msdos -L efi -F ${FAT_TYPE} /dev/${mddev}s1 >>>>> >>>>> FreeBSD release images are also build with such: efi partition >>>>> type and a FAT16 file system. >>>>> >>>>> Looking at a (my abbreviation) RaspiOS64 boot media used to boot >>>>> the RPi4B's (official RPi* media content, not FreeBSD materials): >>>>> >>>>> # newfs_msdos -N /dev/da0s1 >>>>> /dev/da0s1: 523984 sectors in 32749 FAT16 clusters (8192 bytes/cluster) >>>>> BytesPerSec=512 SecPerClust=16 ResSectors=1 FATs=2 RootDirEnts=512 Media=0xf0 FATsecs=128 SecPerTrack=63 Heads=255 HiddenSecs=0 HugeSectors=524288 > > Hmm. Linux reports: > > # file -s /dev/sda1 > /dev/sda1: DOS/MBR boot sector, code offset 0x58+2, OEM-ID "mkfs.fat", sectors/cluster 4, Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/track 32, heads 64, sectors 524288 (volumes > 32 MB), FAT (32 bit), sectors/FAT 1020, reserved 0x1, serial number 0xf92becc, label: "boot " > > I must have misinterpreted what "newfs_msdos -N /dev/da0s1" reports > when /dev/da0s1 has an already exiting file system. > > Sorry for that and the resultant bad example. > > For completeness, FreeBSD reports for that media: > > # file -s /dev/da0s1 > /dev/da0s1: DOS/MBR boot sector, code offset 0x58+2, OEM-ID "mkfs.fat", sectors/cluster 4, Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/track 32, heads 64, sectors 524288 (volumes > 32 MB), FAT (32 bit), sectors/FAT 1020, serial number 0xf92becc, label: "boot " > > Generating a valid example using, instead: > > FreeBSD-15.0-CURRENT-arm64-aarch64-RPI-20231019-fb7140b1f928-266042.img.xz > > expanded and dd'd to media: > > # file -s /dev/da0s1 > /dev/da0s1: DOS/MBR boot sector, code offset 0x3c+2, OEM-ID "BSD4.4 ", sectors/cluster 8, root entries 512, sectors/FAT 50, sectors/track 63, heads 255, sectors 102400 (volumes > 32 MB), serial number 0xc90a0d0f, label: "EFI ", FAT (16 bit) > > I just used that to boot a RPi4B Rev 1.5 "C0T" part that has: > > RPi: BOOTLOADER release VERSION:8ba17717 DATE: 2023/01/11 TIME: 17:40:52 > BOOTMODE: 0x06 partition 63 build-ts BUILD_TIMESTAMP=1673458852 serial c740af3c boardrev d03115 stc 421180 > Halt: wake: 1 power_off: 0 > > . . . The console log for this shows that the RPi* firmware reported: MBR: 0x00000800, 102400 type: 0x0c MBR: 0x00019800,468757680 type: 0xa5 MBR: 0x00000000, 0 type: 0x00 MBR: 0x00000000, 0 type: 0x00 Trying partition: 0 type: 16 lba: 2048 oem: 'BSD4.4 ' volume: ' ^ ' rsc 1 fat-sectors 50 c-count 12783 c-size 8 root dir cluster 1 sectors 32 entries 512 FAT16 clusters 12783 > > Thu Oct 19 05:57:02 UTC 2023 > > FreeBSD/arm64 (generic) (ttyu0) > > login: root > Password: > Oct 19 05:59:46 generic login[1474]: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyu0 > FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT (GENERIC) #0 main-n266042-fb7140b1f928: Thu Oct 19 04:52:33 UTC 2023 > >>>>> But it does have a partition type of fat32lba: >>>>> >>>>> # gpart show -p /dev/da0 >>>>> => 63 468862065 da0 MBR (224G) >>>>> 63 8129 - free - (4.0M) >>>>> 8192 524288 da0s1 fat32lba (256M) >>>>> 532480 468329648 da0s2 linux-data (223G) >>>>> >>>>> Do you know some specific RPi4B EEPROM content for which a FAT16 >>>>> file syatem is not supported? (The EEPROM has the RPi4B boot >>>>> loader.) Or are you saying some U-Boot vintage is restricted to >>>>> FAT32 file systems for loading FreeBSD's EFI/BOOT/bootaa64.efi ? >>>> >>>> Yes, I believe that newer EEPROMs in 2020 and above (don't have the >>>> exact release version but I can bisect if we need to know) no longer >>>> support FAT16 unfortunately. >>> >>> I just booted a RPi4B Rev 1.5 "C0T" part that has: >>> >>> RPi: BOOTLOADER release VERSION:8ba17717 DATE: 2023/01/11 TIME: 17:40:52 >>> BOOTMODE: 0x06 partition 63 build-ts BUILD_TIMESTAMP=1673458852 serial c740af3c boardrev d03115 stc 421180 >>> Halt: wake: 1 power_off: 0 >>> >>> off the (what I call) RaspiOS64 media that I referenced earlier. >>> >>> That means FAT16 with a partition indicating fat32lba. > > I accidentally had used what was actually a FAT32 context: > bad example. > > The rest of the types of notes should be okay, including the > corrected example. > >>> There have been bug fixes, such as the 2022=01-31 EEPROM release that >>> reported: "FAT/GPT fixes and file-system performance improvements." >>> >>>> Here is a relevant link on Raspberry Pi >>>> forums but I can experiment with pinning an exact EEPROM version from >>>> the Raspberry PI repository if need be. When I got my Raspberry Pi 4 >>>> board recently, I did an upgrade to the latest EEPROM version and >>>> noticed this issue. >>>> >>>> * https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=278295#p1685235 >>> >>> At that point (2020-06) there were only 2 tagged EEPROM content >>> releases: >>> >>> v2020.04.16-137ad >>> v2019.09.10-137ad >>> >>> There are 11 from after 2020-06. >>> >>>> * https://github.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom/releases >>>> >>>> I am using the BOOT_UART feature of the Raspberry Pi 4 for this >>>> debugging. I was debugging why the image I created at the had failed and >>>> noticed the bootloader was failing to actually access/read any content >>>> from the boot partition of the SD card. Switching to FAT32 resolved the >>>> issue for me immediately, making me trust the assumption about the state >>>> of later EEPROM releases from the repository. >>> >>> As I've indicated, the official releases of official RPi* >>> images have FAT16 files systems for the RPi* firmware --and >>> they boot just fine when dd'd to the USB3 media that I use. >>> >>> Similarly, the modern official FreeBSD images boot just fine >>> and also have FAT16 for the msdosfs for the RPi* >>> firmware+U-Boot+FreeBSED-UEFI-loader. >>> >>> FreeBSD has had problems with a U-Boot vintage that was messed >>> up for 8 GiByte RPi4B's. But that is now in the past. >>> >>>> I noticed in that first link I added here, there seems to be mixed >>>> opinions on whether the FAT16 file system is supported or not on latest >>>> EEPROM releases for the Pi 4. Let me go back and test once again with a >>>> FAT16 file system for my boot partition. I am currently running Jan 11, >>>> 2023 release (I see they have a new release for Oct 18, 2023). >>> >>> I've not tested the 2023-10-18 release. >>> >>>> On a side note for myself, might be nice to throw the rpi-eeprom tools >>>> into a port for others to easily grab. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Or may be you are referencing the partition type (expressed here >>>>> in gpart terms), instead of the actual file system type that is >>>>> contained? : >>>>> >>>>> efi The system partition for computers that use the >>>>> Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI). The scheme- >>>>> specific types are "!239" for MBR, and >>>>> "!c12a7328-f81f-11d2-ba4b-00a0c93ec93b" for GPT. >>>>> . . . >>>>> fat16 A partition that contains a FAT16 filesystem. The >>>>> scheme-specific type is "!6" for MBR. >>>>> >>>>> fat32 A partition that contains a FAT32 filesystem. The >>>>> scheme-specific type is "!11" for MBR. >>>>> >>>>> fat32lba A partition that contains a FAT32 (LBA) >>>>> filesystem. The scheme-specific type is "!12" for >>>>> MBR. >>>>> >>>>> (It has been some time since last I tried it, but last I tried >>>>> partition type fat16, the RPi4B's boot from it just fine if I >>>>> remember right. But GPT is supported, not just MBR.) >>>>> >>>> >>>> I am not referring to the partition type rather than the real filesystem >>>> type, but thanks for checking. In my boot flow with the image I >>>> generate, I am using the efi partition type. >>>> >>>>>> , so the boot partition >>>>>> needs to be FAT32. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not for the actual file system for any fairly modern vintage of >>>>> RPi4B EEPROM content or U-Boot that I'm aware of. I've less >>>>> certainty about the range of partition types, not having tested >>>>> such in recent times. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a chance you are using so large of an msdos file >>>>> system that a FAT32/FAT32LBA file system is a requirement? >>>> >>>> Great question but I believe that is not the case since for the same >>>> msdos file system (though with different components from rpi-firmware), >>>> I am able to boot the Raspberry Pi 3 up correctly. Let me verify once >>>> more FAT16 (the filesystem) was indeed problematic for me since I was >>>> debugging other issues like not realizing the Pi 4 needed different >>>> components from the rpi-firmware project compared to previous boards. >>>> >>> >> >> One more point: the 1st Capture.JPG image shows: >> >> c-count 0 c-size 0 r-dir 0 r-sec 0 >> >> As I understand it, that is showing that the information was corrupt >> as read: valid FAT16 would not have that combination. >> > === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com