From nobody Thu Oct 12 04:45:48 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-arm@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S5cXT2gwkz4xDTY for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 04:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x52e.google.com (mail-ed1-x52e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4S5cXT0xMMz4cjm for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 04:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ed1-x52e.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-53d9f001b35so952818a12.2 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:46:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1697085960; x=1697690760; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=fU6YX8JjdBoAyL9pXttIrPDx2EmrlOKmkelrO2TDMWs=; b=RHZqEPbuYU2DbfjpFHy4M3uXTgTBgrlp/b8E92d70aF7dNOY7EFHFjusnQdmA7G71U c/yg1OyID5nqpcWCZ0IVz7M/5LCeCaX6k6vFPSXWVS9Najxiy/i3O3KYe4VZf6dowvhl vFlzF7DBCZjClLzIn1dYUmNoSUsSflVB8/6IMf/j34VIiDAuwTDZnwY3wz4ntkf6XjRy hH1V/3FqphfESVttpH706rRZX2j0ECCKk5hgRyOSEe01+oxfzbybDUULQVbciWzeFKSZ SQdXVRVg4ALJN2NS3AHI8K8fGgmzYYpx9m6dsZXel/7S4rehHcHznLY1bgapsMWxxrgQ zDqg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697085960; x=1697690760; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=fU6YX8JjdBoAyL9pXttIrPDx2EmrlOKmkelrO2TDMWs=; b=M9Qugh2xHSa1y8FIYWcpwZgwG7AE3os7lsL58aSCnmYaOVSMhig4DZWzLhZfyz0arO 2qJPK/KRJF6WrD+Ey2FvIpBrsSXhrsKcWZW83ZqhesUK303pJEYvwK8cPHyxPtHllPkE 5NSQ3ZjfXtC45tJCzDB3rSaMp70rPmcyFa6dA7RFvosx7Uwn+o4Uk3YMUS5uNmXPi9wg 8F7ghnnuI8hdxHV7PQ858xhlILWkLR6WZPTIVkq+GdvlJRkMTGZrl5qhtMvskHqLAsGc H1FWFUXVbBhLFOm6f28BcbKWVMql5BXFWmHpQnPK+WHnZiSr/4bhkSW5xAEgark3tqPB N4Mw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyo5nDZ2TxYePkNjogMzEYmgQ1Q4WQvay4cP2vKtMreFMFKF8sG d9CROSi9j0nRdO4U15jhJezKG+K+OSl7xM7WsovSZw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGp6WrQXiMUx+8G//KZBOmiM81BinfDhUDCmxNNcO8uzSeEMLOsIB1rhBPatj88L4nK6i3gwEhmnAUC5a3nXiM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:7394:b0:9ad:fb23:21d8 with SMTP id f20-20020a170906739400b009adfb2321d8mr19407111ejl.12.1697085959609; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:45:59 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2b19e489-b3cc-4363-a523-e6ac8e27cdfd@denninger.net> <4654bb4c-49c7-4aee-bd63-0ff79402494e@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 22:45:48 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unable to boot latest 14-stable To: void Cc: freebsd-arm Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c6b78e06077d9d22" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S5cXT0xMMz4cjm --000000000000c6b78e06077d9d22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 10:36 PM void wrote: > On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, at 04:25, Warner Losh wrote: > > > This has never changed. > > Are changes to the EFI/msdos documented/announced? > Not really. ZFS changes are not documented apart from git log. EFI changes to base are documented when there are user visible changes... But as I've said several times, for base, zpool upgrade is the only time loader.efi needs to be updated in the ESP. But there are many pieces here. The EFI firmware for rpi comes from pkg bits. There's a lot going on there that's random because u-boot can be random. And it kinda sounds like this is what happened to you. Warner --000000000000c6b78e06077d9d22 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 10:36 PM void <void@f-m.fm> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, at 04:25, Warner Losh wrote:

> This has never changed.

Are changes to the EFI/msdos documented/announced?

Not really. ZFS changes a= re not documented apart from git log. EFI changes to base are documented wh= en there are user visible changes...

But as I've said several times, for base, zpool upgrade is= the only time loader.efi needs to be updated in the ESP.

But there are many pieces here. The EFI f= irmware for rpi comes from pkg bits. There's a lot going on there that&= #39;s random because u-boot can be random. And it kinda sounds like this is= what happened to you.=C2=A0

Warner=C2=A0


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