From nobody Fri Nov 10 17:12:03 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-arm@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SRlkB45jmz50CbK for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2023 17:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x529.google.com (mail-ed1-x529.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::529]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SRlk96Mzfz3dPg for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2023 17:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com header.s=20230601 header.b="g11oA1Y/"; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::529) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com; dmarc=none Received: by mail-ed1-x529.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-53db360294fso3846871a12.3 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2023 09:12:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1699636336; x=1700241136; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=CRb+EwZ9QjRa9Dwwj/RB3ODSF97lJD/vJYQlqf5DhCI=; b=g11oA1Y/UApb5UTLFpTQQb/6Q8FYfv6d/8uEaG0C+tt7kdWC/Qo7HiEMlJX00bV7Gt bEI3qH3ZcSX/dcdp4jF6f8nw4+ODxYa3Js3Ci7k+wjHbM8GcH5gNNKe42n5e5iDkbMJb iEUSDZadQLyekdhtgqDv3uN0v+GDdkPZd9/fcS1V9sF7+f/0au5+Cgg96NHwT98QWYFw D0HS50GgWfXiik/rM23c9y6xpmwOMjn5uqCu7R3Z7pEPxSzCMEwgrKdYS/1XASZeGcJx K9LpeNfQVZiP3BUeFDwHVpfdMf2A9wRAo0qNWdDcWP5xXTfRweFaYNv/5E9CAC+319xx iVEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1699636336; x=1700241136; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=CRb+EwZ9QjRa9Dwwj/RB3ODSF97lJD/vJYQlqf5DhCI=; b=X+3ufl3NgXo5mqUpu8xdvh5dSnHnFbA/hbn+XCRp5o+vaSz70Vka0UNt4o8mng4Zxk G24Iae6sWh0X2KbBHwOybpi1vC6LJDk6pCXZV3Hpu0tZZLkyN9iy5gxieK3DyxHT+Isi Hh4HvT0zc5iZ6MTx7PYZ5TDgDgzkp/sT2FsGuyPGbIws5mFXq3rqppva7HPXh1ia4LtH 27q2YYL9EPT+TpCk5ujMYeZWnm7PwQkRdOoULTnuKqbLFegdorAi2KASD1of+oRyd3Ws u8ULwMbwJSIgj0k3xIbsIpMYLNwqP1yDVI2ongyS36+96PskbyBcJ4p8BXnr6dXr5+e8 8tlQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzlDawhLubrSVTabOAuVVfXAGPfNr7f6frsQQ3hg4O609WXbGif kZz9diOvBp2eMhZv6/X2heqCH3q7YdpdtpEfBgGByUNuRaQL1ini X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG3sJLk2N641NMyqJLCAff9TVuxBRXAG7l9ZkssJ4BH4avn7Gc+aNBKRIwXiV7/OJ1kMmw5e9Nujp5MWD/bgN4= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:df10:0:b0:543:fa0:b4b6 with SMTP id c16-20020aa7df10000000b005430fa0b4b6mr7629628edy.33.1699636335615; Fri, 10 Nov 2023 09:12:15 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <07f36861-caf4-458a-8ddc-6c73a4a09755@bunyatech.com.au> <89e45166-8d87-4050-b9f7-00469187005c@madpilot.net> <9036ce5f-f3b8-4c83-a569-aa4d86436e6b@madpilot.net> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:12:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NanoBSD on Raspberry Pi3 To: Guido Falsi Cc: Brian Scott , freebsd-arm Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000834080609cf6c47" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.995]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::529:from]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arm@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SRlk96Mzfz3dPg X-Spamd-Bar: -- --0000000000000834080609cf6c47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 3:08=E2=80=AFAM Guido Falsi wrote= : > On 06/11/23 11:06, Guido Falsi wrote: > > On 05/11/23 12:05, Brian Scott wrote: > >> > >> On 5/11/2023 8:13 pm, Guido Falsi wrote: > >>> Have you got some pointer to some documentation elsewhere about this > >>> so I can write an informed paragraph for the man page about this? > >> I found it a couple of years ago after a lot of searching. No idea > >> where I found it even though I normally try to keep notes. It would be > >> nice to see some doco on it. > > > > I created a code review to update loader.env(8) man page. I really did > > I obviously meant loader.efi(8) here. > Honestly, for MBR booting, the defaults are wrong. mbr + uefi is kinda niche. The rpi is the only platform we have where it's used. Other places it's possible, but with large disks everybody uses GPT when they can regardless of the size of the disk. Plus config is a little easier... All the loader*(8) man pages need a lot of work. Warner --0000000000000834080609cf6c47 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 3:08=E2=80=AFA= M Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net&= gt; wrote:
On 06= /11/23 11:06, Guido Falsi wrote:
> On 05/11/23 12:05, Brian Scott wrote:
>>
>> On 5/11/2023 8:13 pm, Guido Falsi wrote:
>>> Have you got some pointer to some documentation elsewhere abou= t this
>>> so I can write an informed paragraph for the man page about th= is?
>> I found it a couple of years ago after a lot of searching. No idea=
>> where I found it even though I normally try to keep notes. It woul= d be
>> nice to see some doco on it.
>
> I created a code review to update loader.env(8) man page. I really did=

I obviously meant loader.efi(8) here.

H= onestly, for MBR booting, the defaults are wrong. mbr=C2=A0+ uefi is kinda = niche. The rpi is the only platform we have where it's used. Other plac= es it's possible, but with large disks everybody uses GPT when they can= regardless of the size of the disk. Plus config is a little easier...

All the loader*(8) man pages need a lot of work.
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Warner=C2=A0
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