From nobody Thu Apr 13 14:27:52 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-arm@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Py25h5k4hz45BkH for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 14:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dsl@mcusim.org) Received: from mcusim.org (mcusim.org [IPv6:2a00:dd80:3c::e63]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Py25g4PXFz4CQt for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 14:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dsl@mcusim.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=mcusim.org header.s=default header.b=qE+3uTvg; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dsl@mcusim.org designates 2a00:dd80:3c::e63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dsl@mcusim.org; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=mcusim.org Received: from localhost (unknown [193.164.254.100]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mcusim.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DB5E388600; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:29:19 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mcusim.org; s=default; t=1681396160; bh=VKIT/eDlF1K5HvX83bGRjdCHWTMuXmB2CQWpn+MUtcs=; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-reply-to; b=qE+3uTvgDAnl0Ah4RsKW2T7QDp1mUy93rdqQ/NvUfTg3kh6odnFjePxS2F3YeNqno f6PIGRIThlzod26afoie1YK3Qzh/LgdL3K9gxd/Iyvg5VMMc2PyMU4pIkjJrygI1y+ RVsRowVbs7um4s+PbQdxY7O5koUSxGitqawsqCMg= References: <66fee230-24eb-c7d8-fa30-4530409c0f5c@nomadlogic.org> <86ttxwvyv7.fsf@peasant.tower.home> <86jzysvvuy.fsf@peasant.tower.home> <86a5zovujm.fsf@peasant.tower.home> <86355fwwtv.fsf@peasant.tower.home> User-agent: mu4e 1.6.10; emacs 28.2 From: Dmitry Salychev To: Mario Marietto Cc: Marcin Cieslak , Pete Wright , freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pinephone Pro Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:27:52 +0200 In-reply-to: Message-ID: <86pm87ua7x.fsf@peasant.tower.home> List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[mcusim.org,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mcusim.org:s=default]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:2a00:dd80:3c::/48, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[dsl]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mcusim.org:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Py25g4PXFz4CQt X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Mario Marietto writes: > I know. But the pro version is too expensive for me. :( I tried to say that there's no hurry and you'd save money to buy the Pro version instead ;) > > On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 4:23=E2=80=AFPM Dmitry Salychev w= rote: > > Mario Marietto writes: > > > Hello, > > > > I see that the Pinebook pro is very expensive for me. Can I collaborat= e with you if I bought this version of the PinePhone ? > > > > https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-beta-edition-with-convergence-pac= kage/ > > PinePhone (not Pro) is built on Allwinner A64 (4xCortex A53). Compare it > to Rockchip RK3399S (2xA72 + 4xA53) of the Pro version. There'll be > different device trees for those models and it's curious to me how > different those models are in terms of devices/drivers available in > FreeBSD. > > You can definitely buy it, but be prepared that we'll need to prioritize > if the actual development will be planned. Personally, I'd pay attention > to the Pro model. > > Regards, > Dmitry > > > > > On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:57=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev wrote: > > > > Mario Marietto writes: > > > > > PineTime is interesting and it is in my budget. I could buy it and = then try to play a little bit with it. Maybe FreeBSD can be > installed > > there ? > > > or Linux ? > > > > PineTime is built upon nRF52832 (64 MHz Cortex-M4) which doesn't have > > MMU. So, no FreeBSD or Linux can be used there (uCLinux is an excepti= on, > > but 64 KiB of RAM isn't enough). > > > > Details: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=3D8112 > > > > Regards, > > Dmitry > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:29=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev wrote: > > > > > > Marcin Cieslak writes: > > > > > > > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]] > > > > On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Dmitry Salychev wrote: > > > > > > > >>> I think you should be prepared to build your own image. > > > >>> With FreeBSD it is not very difficult (I find it easier than in > > > >>> the Linux world). > > > >>> > > > >>> Marcin > > > >>> > > > >>> [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]] > > > >> > > > >> I'd take their device tree and try to boot GENERIC kernel for a= rm64 in > > > >> order to get an idea which drivers are missing: > > > >> > > > >> # dmesg | grep "no driver" | grep -v "disabled" > > > >> > > > >> Pete, are you going to keep your findings somewhere? I don't ha= ve > > > >> PinePhone Pro at the moment, but would like to follow and can s= upport > > > >> with customizing your kernel. > > > > > > > > Now thinking about getting one, too.. Maybe wiki.freeebsd.org co= uld be the place > > > > to keep notes? > > > > > > > > saper > > > > > > > > [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]] > > > > > > Btw, it has almost nothing to do with the FreeBSD itself, but I re= cently > > > received PineTime (both sealed one and a devkit) as a gift and can= say > > > that it's quite good in terms of PCB/assembling quality. Their Fre= eRTOS-based > > > OS works surprisingly good as well. If the PinePhone Pro is simila= r, > > > it's worth bringing FreeBSD there. > > > > > > +1 for notes kept at wiki.freebsd.org > > > > > > Regards, > > > Dmitry > > > > > > --=20 > > > Open source software/hardware enthusiast > > > hackaday.io/dsl | github.com/mcusim | patreon.com/salychev > > > > --=20 > > Open source software/hardware enthusiast > > hackaday.io/dsl | github.com/mcusim | patreon.com/salychev > > --=20 > Open source software/hardware enthusiast > hackaday.io/dsl | github.com/mcusim | patreon.com/salychev --=20 Open source software/hardware enthusiast hackaday.io/dsl | github.com/mcusim | patreon.com/salychev