From nobody Tue Apr 04 11:03:17 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-arm@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PrPyh4HXnz43PYb for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2023 11:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marietto2008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw1-x1129.google.com (mail-yw1-x1129.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PrPyh0jZDz49hN for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2023 11:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marietto2008@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yw1-x1129.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-54184571389so606380697b3.4 for ; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 04:03:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1680606234; x=1683198234; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ZyxIZlrjEJ30lLCMQNJcboMZM450PZH1CUe+iC1fgS4=; b=fGgeLHNUzBvjLXt8a/xoxjwaG6FKDurwgJnEy8aqydw6zZyXSnzrOjG08WRx3pDPAQ 2ru/EUtuhVEkqoYbFew00Lv6uubpmt+aiyTMHCxs4txyy+Ssc86heUkmCUVZ0TW4LCrm CoMTusBPL2CkI9FZGHN6fwT3TgG0TUwXuOMzSuC4One9SVvHyaGHDJR5NfKdkE7UkIkV ksScDI/57hVsqKDQ09Fdqt1PHlgxI3l+Sdc9YVVVAf2ht3vd0z1/6XkztQz1M0P1ymmv c6eTeVhdz+/7pvAKBo7ldyftiGPbCz5AwhzDZSg1M0XWlyGFMI7aZwzpkckE0wmp6ReX OAag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1680606234; x=1683198234; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=ZyxIZlrjEJ30lLCMQNJcboMZM450PZH1CUe+iC1fgS4=; b=4ckSYpy0c4ZFWVKbmoohbv2WSghW+fqcTb1AiENVz4GcMrCU7Q5ZGJz8mnJldAX23f Hdzuqi9JFlO+kNzNwigmsPYwSU6tP9LVkIw36f3AXm1lpZntExugjMXKW1qzIXzXg9gF SU5eHB+yXAXFyk2qsqNlkFMuULuhL07MAWxxOO7nh9NbU78KKDoKl48AJnKOQPyPJRxV Pl4F5+DGTZp655Zjljss5/w5F6DhUF3WXkZBKfinN5QID9QiGqXbK4PwUFw6gStir0VF HIAPbdXfdD3YOocnxSnM0Y9RVYPkzxLKpGHFFuCRQnd28j/7vP1VGnausP3YePE2Z4m2 ZeIw== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9d4ZzeSLw9RKjxYa42Rg8z2ikRuHMnRVOBZA6he6jjh8i1rMJeP ni3KR+A6ITOVroODY1HQxO+DlhWdsQ9SU/NiFMfT6RMQUVqgKg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350Z3iPbpRrMGR71kLle2wp9n7ptTRd+dGAOFFn1lWqyIlikvg/KZ4VnpyIAKjsbC1aFN0fBfc9KPpu5iYtTxTfM= X-Received: by 2002:a81:af06:0:b0:52e:ac97:115f with SMTP id n6-20020a81af06000000b0052eac97115fmr1327061ywh.5.1680606233640; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 04:03:53 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66fee230-24eb-c7d8-fa30-4530409c0f5c@nomadlogic.org> <86ttxwvyv7.fsf@peasant.tower.home> <86jzysvvuy.fsf@peasant.tower.home> <86a5zovujm.fsf@peasant.tower.home> In-Reply-To: <86a5zovujm.fsf@peasant.tower.home> From: Mario Marietto Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 13:03:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pinephone Pro To: Dmitry Salychev Cc: Marcin Cieslak , Pete Wright , freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000090479205f880a151" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PrPyh0jZDz49hN X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000090479205f880a151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I see that the Pinebook pro is very expensive for me. Can I collaborate with you if I bought this version of the PinePhone ? https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-beta-edition-with-convergence-package/ On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:57=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev wr= ote: > > Mario Marietto writes: > > > PineTime is interesting and it is in my budget. I could buy it and then > try to play a little bit with it. Maybe FreeBSD can be installed there ? > > or Linux ? > > PineTime is built upon nRF52832 (64 MHz Cortex-M4) which doesn't have > MMU. So, no FreeBSD or Linux can be used there (uCLinux is an exception, > but 64 KiB of RAM isn't enough). > > Details: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=3D8112 > > Regards, > Dmitry > > > > > On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:29=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev wrote: > > > > Marcin Cieslak writes: > > > > > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]] > > > On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Dmitry Salychev wrote: > > > > > >>> I think you should be prepared to build your own image. > > >>> With FreeBSD it is not very difficult (I find it easier than in > > >>> the Linux world). > > >>> > > >>> Marcin > > >>> > > >>> [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]] > > >> > > >> I'd take their device tree and try to boot GENERIC kernel for arm64 > in > > >> order to get an idea which drivers are missing: > > >> > > >> # dmesg | grep "no driver" | grep -v "disabled" > > >> > > >> Pete, are you going to keep your findings somewhere? I don't have > > >> PinePhone Pro at the moment, but would like to follow and can suppo= rt > > >> with customizing your kernel. > > > > > > Now thinking about getting one, too.. Maybe wiki.freeebsd.org could > be the place > > > to keep notes? > > > > > > saper > > > > > > [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]] > > > > Btw, it has almost nothing to do with the FreeBSD itself, but I recent= ly > > received PineTime (both sealed one and a devkit) as a gift and can say > > that it's quite good in terms of PCB/assembling quality. Their > FreeRTOS-based > > OS works surprisingly good as well. If the PinePhone Pro is similar, > > it's worth bringing FreeBSD there. > > > > +1 for notes kept at wiki.freebsd.org > > > > Regards, > > Dmitry > > > > -- > > Open source software/hardware enthusiast > > hackaday.io/dsl | github.com/mcusim | patreon.com/salychev > > > -- > Open source software/hardware enthusiast > hackaday.io/dsl | github.com/mcusim | patreon.com/salychev > --=20 Mario. --00000000000090479205f880a151 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

I see that the Pinebo= ok pro is very expensive for me. Can I collaborate with you if I bought thi= s version of the PinePhone ?


On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:57=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev <dsl@mcusim.org> wrote:

Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> writes:

> PineTime is interesting and it is in my budget. I could buy it and the= n try to play a little bit with it. Maybe FreeBSD can be installed there ?<= br> > or Linux ?

PineTime is built upon nRF52832 (64 MHz Cortex-M4) which doesn't have MMU. So, no FreeBSD or Linux can be used there (uCLinux is an exception, but 64 KiB of RAM isn't enough).

Details: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?t= id=3D8112

Regards,
Dmitry

>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:29=E2=80=AFAM Dmitry Salychev <dsl@mcusim.org> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 Marcin Cieslak <saper@saper.info> writes:
>
>=C2=A0 > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]]
>=C2=A0 > On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Dmitry Salychev wrote:
>=C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 >>> I think you should be prepared to build your own im= age.
>=C2=A0 >>> With FreeBSD it is not very difficult (I find it ea= sier than in
>=C2=A0 >>> the Linux world).
>=C2=A0 >>>
>=C2=A0 >>> Marcin
>=C2=A0 >>>
>=C2=A0 >>> [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]]
>=C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 >> I'd take their device tree and try to boot GENERIC = kernel for arm64 in
>=C2=A0 >> order to get an idea which drivers are missing:
>=C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 >> # dmesg | grep "no driver" | grep -v "di= sabled"
>=C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 >> Pete, are you going to keep your findings somewhere? I = don't have
>=C2=A0 >> PinePhone Pro at the moment, but would like to follow a= nd can support
>=C2=A0 >> with customizing your kernel.
>=C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 > Now thinking about getting one, too.. Maybe wiki.freeebsd.or= g could be the place
>=C2=A0 > to keep notes?
>=C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 > saper
>=C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 > [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]]
>
>=C2=A0 Btw, it has almost nothing to do with the FreeBSD itself, but I = recently
>=C2=A0 received PineTime (both sealed one and a devkit) as a gift and c= an say
>=C2=A0 that it's quite good in terms of PCB/assembling quality. The= ir FreeRTOS-based
>=C2=A0 OS works surprisingly good as well. If the PinePhone Pro is simi= lar,
>=C2=A0 it's worth bringing FreeBSD there.
>
>=C2=A0 +1 for notes kept at wiki.freebsd.org
>
>=C2=A0 Regards,
>=C2=A0 Dmitry
>
>=C2=A0 --
>=C2=A0 Open source software/hardware enthusiast
>=C2=A0 hackaday.io/dsl | github.com/mcusim | patreon.com/salychev=


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