From nobody Fri Nov 05 11:34:49 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-arm@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14D31851371 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2021 11:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mafsys1234@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x42b.google.com (mail-pf1-x42b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::42b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Hlz2J61Fkz4S1K for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2021 11:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mafsys1234@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf1-x42b.google.com with SMTP id x64so8623326pfd.6 for ; Fri, 05 Nov 2021 04:35:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CvH/sLQ51/jBMZNvzyxJi9P7TlBvK4YjLu1tuIxQO/s=; b=YXgk2Ll6udA6SDh0IFQz1acnXiRZRu74XydWRI/fL/4dzMob11IBZc5e/ycX1tc6ij xZ6R8nxsxFdZQxAN0CrUF8c6ip3mqXk4cydfJT7TsxTAIckyPdAEMTyUgYzrEDQR15x5 Ry7F5+Ria1ohyZBdQJ3rqFuRzComEAPOH18WakRDpbP19eO6Wqj/JenMSl70NW3vCU0Q HTXkDoDbhS3GbaBcx++kyY7rtwMdDkbLZV6CRxPJHrRnvvDLriA7O2VrF1sQgPLnmjAl 3lDsnAPC0fKVDip97qXqaCW5ovYZhqRpumOVlfNnLRETr3mzP9TFx9ETQtrQSUsfKqA+ 7vXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CvH/sLQ51/jBMZNvzyxJi9P7TlBvK4YjLu1tuIxQO/s=; b=fHEZRENKEjgcasyKS0/XrBiKKl1jxP4fLfIkZp7VUMNsDrpU/IN6s8v682jsw4d4p0 Iceg842eCWjBwEhuCnyQsGlmjAPxgcLXw1hF2T2ycgaQDHa4HkwZGaHr4woM8bj37ykA 9lLGj6LHKZZsip40HV5vJBvmlebCCwpQJ3iiSfOxTN00vBrqCfZ/Lyl1L4Uy2xnO37TX 2RVwYT7sdq/RRSlVXtVL7W/qQ+12qVbkUjFOFtk5PrqTERUFdPao8kvE4ewXJBET2BuK yiDdnkJ8mPahYwW+Q+Dze9hmoroxKL/46NxgnTw7PrEKivJHQ0NcvHw1Fh7j3kOxOS6w A6SQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530nCF+dwaOxoLOAXdoGxEboBL0v+EuB95pIpjt8IIw4olDDAM+1 2smCMUNPDyaIzlmdIWGrn+phDwYYiD1JUQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxSmUjK2hav7IhXBAdZ79AimlTSkr+M7Yo8vTmBUtp6xZHbbKsP9rADs2pEAm/AgbmR9/dv0A== X-Received: by 2002:a63:e906:: with SMTP id i6mr17339895pgh.223.1636112098375; Fri, 05 Nov 2021 04:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([115.69.53.183]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j19sm7309300pfj.127.2021.11.05.04.34.56 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Nov 2021 04:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 14: Poll armv6 deprecated or removed To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org References: From: MJ Message-ID: <169dbe8f-3db7-6947-3081-828c2b548817@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 22:34:49 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Hlz2J61Fkz4S1K X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=YXgk2Ll6; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::42b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.40 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arm@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.40)[-0.401]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::42b:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N I read no one wants to support this architecture, so the decision is simple: ditch it. I abandoned FreeBSD long ago on the RPI 1 because it had no (and probably still doesn't have any) support for DAC and a linux-based OS suited me fine. I have not changed anything on it in years. It just works, it just outputs audio. I would suspect a lot of use cases are the same: it's sitting doing something and nothing ever changes on it. In fact I'm willing to bet my linux version is so old it can't be updated anyway (packages and base). Leave ArmV6 to NetBSD and Linux OSs. They can do everything Freebsd can do and more on this architecture. And they want to support it. I do agree that openbsd's telemetry for establishing at least the number of installs would be a good thing for Freebsd in the future when the next architecture inevitably falls into the bit-abyss. That's my vote, for what it's worth.